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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: epicure who wrote (17271)6/21/2001 10:12:21 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 82486
 
"I bash humans who claim he does absolutely exist, in the manifestation that they cling to, with no proof."

The idea of a god who is a manifestation is a contradiction to the idea of the God who is eternal and beyond limiting temporal descriptors. The only major world religions that I know of that describe god as having manifestations are the Hindus who believe their Gods have incarnations and some Christians who believe that God is manifest in three distinct manifestations. In both cases they would consider one aspect of God's manifestation as being incomplete without the eternal, beyond temporal attributions.

Nothing is provable in the sense that you require proof. There is evidence. Evidence exists in the historical and scientific reports shared by humans. Evidence existists in what can be attributed as self evident.

"I can't love them the way Gandhi did." Gandhi loved Peace and his own cultural heritage. He claimed as you reported to be a Christian, Moslem, and a Jew. One of the things that is true of someone who proclaims interfaith identity associated with these three religions is that they believe that there is no God but God and they absolutely mean the particular God that Abraham worshipped, and not others. Yet you contradict yourself when you say "I bash humans who claim he does absolutely exist, and hold Ghandi as someone who doesn't make you ..."cringe when I think of them. They repulse me.

Ghandi hated a lot of things that he witnessed and the people responsible for it and said so.

I can understand that you hate pride and religious people who are without humility. Pride is one of the seven deadly sins and repulses all of us. Its interesting that our culture considers it a positive characteristic. Most competitive people thrive on the pride that they are showered with and success in our culture is usually measured by competitive achievement.