To: Zeev Hed who wrote (2050 ) 6/22/2001 8:46:46 AM From: Yaacov Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 23908 Not even Khazars all looked alike! ibn-Said-al-Maghribi tells us that there were Kara (black)Kazars and Ak (white) Kazars. The ruling class being the White Kazars. The Stalins ideology had a drastic effect on Kazar studies. Between 1929 to 1953, Soviet archaeologists and historians were forced to adopt the view that Khazars were non Turkic migrants, but native of North Caucasus. As I said to you in my earliest post these were in line with Stalin's vision. This policy maintains that they were not Turkic butTurkfied people. One way or another the Khazars were the ancestors or Ashakanzi Jewery, Ukrainian, Russian, and probably all the Yeddish speaking Jews! Even the name Ashkanaz comes from the Scythian or "Ashguazi!" In Torah the name refers to Southern Russian, Armenia, and Asia Minor. And who claims Jews didn't convertothers? Proselytism was responsilbe for Jews of Tunisia, Ageria, and Morrocco. in the 7th century this was done by the Spanish Jews who settled with the Berbers. The clos connection between the Berbers and Spanish Jews was quoted by the Spanish poet Abu Baker ibn Ammar in the 11th century, and by al-Idrisi a 12th century Morrocan geographer who wrote about Berbers of Jewish faith, not to mention Iben Khaldun. Rif Jews are Berbers and not Semites! The same goes for the Flasha who descend from the Himyarite kingdom in Yeman, and well connected to Yeminite Jewish immigrants who were responsilbe for spread of Judism in the fifth century. Same goes for Yeminte Jews. Several Himarite kings converted to Judism in the first century AD. among which there were Yassirum Yohera'em King of Sheba! I can go on and on but who cares! Last but not least, there are many Ashkanz names that are driven from the Turkic. Balaban (faclcn) Kagan (king) Alpert (Alparsalan meaning Hero-lion) Helperin, Halpern and Galpern, all coming from Tonga ALper (tiger hero man) Olober (Alp-Or) Sheliber (Es Alp Or.) What balagan! ggg And are we all semites? No chance! Are we related to the Bushmen in the Middle East? No chance. We are simply Jews united under God and by "memeories"! Yes that is what makes us all Jews, memories! You take that away, there is nothing left!