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To: Dan3 who wrote (137930)	6/22/2001 10:57:21 AM
From: Cirruslvr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Dan - RE: "The data sheet for the .18 PIII mobile clearly states that the power figure are for max consumption and also offers power ratings for 1.35v - where core/cache power is 18 watts, 10 watts lower than the core/cache consumption figure for Tualatin. We need to see if there is a similar (lowered voltage) consumption figure for Tualatin, but right now, the data out indicates that Tualatin actually consumes significantly more power at a given voltage than Coppermine!" Do you realize you are comparing a low-voltage mobile PIII to a normal mobile PIII processor? That's why the voltage you quote is 1.35v, not the 1.6/1.7 the normal .18 mobile PIII uses. But you knew that... "The amperage a 1.35v for Coppermine is 12.8 while at 1.45v for Tualatin it's 19.4. At 1.7 Coppermine amperage jumps to 21.1 while for Tualatin we aren't given another figure." Again you're comparing a low-voltage moblie PIII to a normal mobile PIII. Here's another comparison since you seem to like them - the mobile 1.13GHz max power consumption of 27.9W is about equal to the 850MHz Coppermine's. That's 33% more speed plus double the L2 cache at the same max power consumption. You need to accept that Tualatin is a big improvement over Coppermine. I don't see why you're trying so hard to hide this fact. BTW, what do you mean by "bus drivers" here - "If you add in the bus drivers, tualatin may be closer to that 34w figure than the 27w or 28w being offered as power use under typical loads." According to the tech doc, the Tualatin bus uses a lower voltage than the previous P6 bus. "The Intel® Pentium® III processor with 512KB L2 Cache uses the original low voltage signaling of the Gunning Transceiver Logic (GTL) technology for the system bus. The GTL system bus operates at 1.25V signal levels versus GTL+ which operates at 1.5V signal levels. The GTL+ signal technology is used by the Intel® Pentium® Pro, Intel® Pentium® II and legacy Intel® Pentium® III processors."

To: Dan3 who wrote (137930)	6/22/2001 11:20:49 AM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 186894

Blow Hard Dan - Re: "That 20% power reduction was a best case and no reduction or nearly no reduction may still turn out to be the case. " First there WASN'T A POWER reduction - then THERE WAS a 20% Power reduction - and NOW there may be NO power reduction again. Blow Hard - do you know how REALLY STUPID YOU SOUND?

To: Dan3 who wrote (137930)	6/22/2001 11:23:49 AM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 186894

Blow Hard Dan - You'll like this !! biz.yahoo.com Friday June 22, 11:03 am Eastern Time Press Release Intel to Showcase 0.13 Micron-Based Mobile Processor At TechX NY Trade Show SANTA CLARA, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 22, 2001--Intel Corporation today announced plans to show its next-generation mobile processor based on 0.13 micron process technology at the TechX NY trade show June 26-28. The new mobile Pentium® III processor-M will deliver speeds in excess of 1 GHz and includes new features such as 0.13 micron process technology, enhanced performance, and new power management technologies enabling thinner, lighter notebooks. The mobile processor, shipping in volume to customers worldwide, will officially launch in the third quarter. Leading PC makers are now preparing new systems based on this processor. ``As the worldwide mobile PC processor and technology leader, Intel is committed to designing cutting-edge products that deliver the best mobile computing experience for every size notebook,'' said Frank Spindler, vice president and general manager of Intel's Mobile Platforms Group. ``With the combination of performance, enhanced power management technologies and a scaleable new chipset architecture, the new mobile Pentium III processor-M will power a wave of exciting, new systems featuring great performance, long battery life, small size and wireless communications.'' Intel's 0.13 micron process technology features the world's fastest transistors, the smallest transistor gate, the thinnest gate oxide and the smallest SRAM cell in volume production today. These features combined deliver the highest performance and lowest power consumption across all mobile PC segments. The Intel booth at the TechX NY trade show is number 3436. Intel, the world's largest chip maker, is also a leading manufacturer of computer, networking and communications products. Additional information about Intel is available at www.intel.com/pressroom. Note to Editors: Third party marks and brands are the property of their respective holders. For more information on Intel's mobile power measurement, visit: developer.intel.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contact: Intel Corporation Shannon Johnson, 408/765-7770 shannon.johnson@intel.com