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To: dave rose who wrote (17351)6/25/2001 7:14:15 PM
From: The Philosopher  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 82486
 
Do you agree that there is a huge difference between a group of cells
(potentially a human) and a slave?


To take your question literally, no. A slave IS a group of cells. Nothing more. So am I, so are you.

You say "potentially a human." That, of course, begs the question.

Is an embryo a human?

It is a question that can't be answered scientifically, can't be answered by any form of logical proof. It's purely a matter of definition, and all definitions are arbitrary.

Is an embryo capable of living outside it's mother's body more or less human than a 60 year old in a coma who is completely dependent on machines to live? Or, let's say, a person with failed kidneys who is completely dependent on dialysis to live and would die in days if her blood weren't dialyzed? The one is capable of life without aid of machines. The other is not.

What IS a human?????



To: dave rose who wrote (17351)6/25/2001 7:14:38 PM
From: average joe  Respond to of 82486
 
"Do you agree that there is a huge difference between a group of cells (potentially a human) and a slave? What a comparison.

A slave is a group of cells and human and there is no difference, the potential starts at conception.



To: dave rose who wrote (17351)6/26/2001 12:30:29 AM
From: Greg or e  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
Dave, seriously, you are just a group of cells yourself. So is a slave. When do you think the group of cells which you erroneously classify as "potentially human", actually becomes human, and why?