To: milo_morai who wrote (45157 ) 6/26/2001 2:35:06 AM From: Paul Engel Respond to of 275872 Re: "I don't believe Palomino isn't scaling well.. " Well..this guy does !overclockers.com "Athlon MP: Why Buy Now?" Ed Stroligo - 6/25/01 Back in the bad old days, say, nine months ago, people used to have to judge a bit before buying a CPU. After all, they weren't disposable diapers, this was something you had to live with for a while. Now we have a CPU of the Month Club. You don't have relationships with your processor anymore, you have one-night stands. I got an Athlon MP 1.2Ghz yesterday. I'm in danger of becoming CPU-infested just trying to keep up with the club. If all the little CPU legs I now have were roach legs, I'd have to call in the exterminator.:) Let's see how it does. Overclocking We put in a watercooling system into the Master so no CPU would have any heat prostration excuses in any test. So far, quite good; it's keeping CPU temperature not much warmer than I am. Will all this support, first thing I did was to go to 1.5Ghz. Bad move. To make a long story short, this chip doesn't want to hear 1.5Ghz. Not talking, "unstable in Prime95;" the only booting it did at 1.5Ghz was aimed at my rear end. The best I could do was 9.5X150, or 1425Mhz. Even at that relatively low speed, I need 1.93V to get into Win98 (Win2K does OK at 1.83V). In contrast, same setup, no problem at 1.575Ghz with an AYHJA. You might say I got a runt, but taking a look around the forums, I seem to have a decent amount of company. Between 1.4 and low 1.5s seem to be the range for most of these. Cooling? As Joe reported, it does a few C better. Every little bit helps, but it's not going to turn a lousy cooler into a good one. Performance 1) The myth of memory With one exception, there's practically no difference in component measurements. The one glaring difference is in part of Sandra Memory.