To: SmoothSail who wrote (481 ) 6/26/2001 10:21:14 PM From: Volsi Mimir Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3937 I asked earlier about LP's and so far here are two good info places to read-- still have to find my patch cord and after reading make up my mind to geta better sound card: from (one of the sites)http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~abcomp/lp-cdr.htm Discussion of Soundcard Types Once you have a package capable of recording direct to hard disk, there are two basic approaches to digitising the line level signal depending on the quality you require: Use a "normal" computer soundcard. You need a soundcard capable of 44.1kHz 16bit stereo. All modern soundcards are able to do this. The (analogue) line level signal should be fed into the line input of the soundcard, and the signal can then be recorded straight to the hard disk. Use an outboard analogue-to-digital convertor, and feed its (digital) output into a soundcard capable of receiving digital signals. As with using a "normal" soundcard, the analogue signal must be sampled at 44.1kHz stereo. If you use an A/D convertor which is capable of more than 16 bit resolution, you might wish to find a soundcard that can maintain those bits (although you will of course have to convert to 16 bit before actually burning a CDR). However, my own experience is that even the most perfect of LP sources will be hard pressed to deliver a signal with more than 12 bits resolution, so plain vanilla 16 bit is fine, and even truncation without redithering won't harm the LP signal. Using a "normal" soundcard is certainly a much cheaper option, but the inside of a PC is a very hostile environment for analogue signals. Some soundcards are better than others in their rejection of this noise pollution. My experience is that currently available soundcards generally fall into four categories: Cheap cards with unknown brand names. It is of course possible that some of these may be fine, but in general they have fairly dreadful sound quality. Avoid. Low end PCI-bus Soundblasters. The old ISA-bus Soundblasters were frankly not very good, but the more recent PCI-bus offerings are much better. An OEM version of the PCI128 can be had for about $30, and has quite reasonable sound quality. The noise floor is about -65dB (although of course this might be influenced by the particular motherboard in use), which is better than you'll get off even the best LP played on a high-end turntable, and the frequency response is perhaps a little bright but otherwise not bad at all. Note that the PCI128 has recently been replaced by the PCI512, and there are reports that the 512 has marginally worse sound quality than the 128. Cards in the sub-$200 range, such as the Soundblaster Live, Turtle Beach Montego II, and similar. These cards tend to have much more sophisticated extra features for game support and sound effects, but their basic sound quality is usually no better than cards like the PCI128. Serious cards aimed at the semi-professional, such as the Echo Gina, LynxOne, and DAL CardD Deluxe. These typically cost around $400-$500, and can give sound quality as good as entry-level external A/D converters. =============================================== there is more info there....thats just a little and this site:cdrfaq.org I have Roxio 5.0 and Spin Doctor so IF I get a better soundcard I may try.....but now its a project on the back burner. there is more info at the Phish- fan site in fact thats where I found to go to these..... phish.net they are going toward a newer copy direct from the web audio distribution called Shorten .shn (except you have have a cable or DSL hi speed modem) (etree.org is a spinoff of the Phish tapers -- etree.org anyways those people can answer more complicated questions.. hope this helps... Here is a place I read about I think last sundays Seattle Times thats a service 30 bucks a whack for the "priceless" ones in your record collection:lp2cd.com