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To: goldsheet who wrote (72468)	6/27/2001 12:32:47 PM
From: KipferlMeister	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 116764

I couldn't agree more. I find a great many of Long-gone's posts just plain distasteful. Good thing is, he's a great contrary indicator -- when gold pops a buck giving him the vapors, I know it's time to sell my NEM.

To: goldsheet who wrote (72468)	6/27/2001 12:41:42 PM
From: marek_wojna	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116764

<<You must really want gold to go up. When Gold Fields had several miners killed, your main concern was mine closure reducing production. With the recent earthquake in Peru killing more people, you focused again on gold production. Now the plight of those with AIDS/HIV is a concern because it might affect gold production. Are you also hoping for a small nucleur war in a part of the world that will not affect you but will increase the gold price ? Maybe you could join an environmental group to get mining stopped, or a terrorist group like ELF to set explosions in mines to reduce gold production ? >> There is much greater number of victims due to deliberate manipulation of driving POG down than all possible causes you mention. Beside those people are victims of PLANNED action, I can call bankers of the world cold blooded murderers. Victims of HIV, earthquake, mine collapse are the collateral of an accident. Do you see the difference?

To: goldsheet who wrote (72468)	6/27/2001 12:53:56 PM
From: long-gone	Respond to of 116764

I guess you also hate insurance actuaries. I do not enjoy seeing death or destruction, rather hate it, because in the end a greater not lesser population is the friend of all commodities. Matters not, though, what you or I like or dislike, hate or love. The impact of everything that impacts both the supply & the demand of gold must be understood and should be discussed here-in. I didn't couldn't & wouldn't make any of these news events happen. Would failure to admit & understand the truth make us better or worse people?

To: goldsheet who wrote (72468)	6/27/2001 1:54:22 PM
From: long-gone	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116764

<<Now the plight of those with AIDS/HIV is a concern because it might affect gold production.>> btw did you & your holier than thou attitude also scold Kitco for bringing forward the same issue & bit of news?

To: goldsheet who wrote (72468)	6/27/2001 5:56:57 PM
From: marek_wojna	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116764

I REALLY WANT THE GOLD TO GO UP. I REALLY WANT BARRICK AND ANGLO GOING BELLY UP. I REALLY WANT THE BANKERS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ORGANISED MANIPULATION AGAINST FREE MARKET DEAD.http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=\ForeignBureaus\archive\200106\For20010627b.html AIDS-Hit South Africa Running Out Of Graveyard Space By Mark Klusener CNSNews.com Correspondent June 27, 2001 Durban, South Africa (CNSNews.com) - While world leaders at the United Nations Conference on AIDS in New York look for ways curb the spread of the disease, in South Africa authorities are faced with the grim task of finding burial space in overflowing graveyards for the more than 250,000 AIDS victims who die each year. More than four million of South Africa's 40 million people are infected with AIDS and the death toll is likely to double by 2008. With the increase in AIDS deaths local cemeteries are filling up, forcing officials to resort to unusual techniques like grave recycling and upright coffins. KwaZulu-Natal is the area hardest hit, with an infection rate of more than 35 percent. In the province's largest city, Durban, one cemetery official projects the death rate for the next ten years will require enough graves to fill almost 600 acres of land - equivalent to one fifth of the area of the old city. "Of the city's 24 cemeteries 16 are full to capacity, we just have nowhere to put the dead," said Pepe Das, operations manager for Durban's southern cemeteries. Officials there have launched a grave rejuvenation program, in which they remove the remains of the dead after ten years. They then rebury the remains deeper in the same grave, and add the new bodies. "Most people don't mind, and for many years this was a common practice - people would be buried on top of the remains of family members," Das said. "The difference nowadays is that often the people are not from the same family and we are now burying four or even five bodies to a grave". He admits, however, that this is a temporary solution and officials are struggling to cope. In 1995 between 5,000 and 6,000 people were buried within the city's jurisdiction. By last year the figure had risen to 13,500. "It's difficult for me to say how these people died and what role AIDS plays in this but in my eight years here I've seen a marked growth in the number of deaths," he said. Das said the city has been trying to encourage cremation, but the practice violates the traditional beliefs of the province's largest ethnic group, the Zulus. "We believe the dead are our ancestors and they are not dead, they are alive," says Philani Gama, a Zulu undertaker in the neighboring town of Pietermaritzburg. "Burning them is a way of making them feel pain, and you don't hurt your ancestors. Burning makes them vanish into thin air, and there is nothing left after that." Seating room? Mindful of the looming space crisis in South Africa's cemeteries, Gama has come up with an invention he believes can more than double the number of burials per standard grave area - a coffin in which a body is buried sitting down. "There are too many people dying right now," he says. "Also, long ago in Africa and with the Zulus, they used to bury people seated. I decided that idea could save us some space." Although still in the early stages, six prototypes have already been made, and Gama plans to start production soon. He has found a lot of interest in the vertical coffins, which retail for about $300. Although this is quite expensive, many Zulu families are happy to spend almost $2000 on a funeral service. "The people are really dying in their numbers in the townships. I have upwards of 11 funerals a week and I'm just one of 15 funeral parlors operating in the area," he said. Although business is booming, Gama is not happy. "My people are dying, and its related to AIDS. I'm not happy about it, but I try to offer a service that will make their deaths as dignified as possible," he said.