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To: combjelly who wrote (137811)	6/29/2001 12:36:05 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1584762

The only extra-marital sexual activity of Bill that has been proven is with Monica and with Gennifer Flowers Any person with average intellect or above who has followed the situation KNOWS what the score is. There is little question he harrassed Ms. Willy and little question he actually raped Ms. Broderick. While YOU may not believe these assaults occurred, rational people who have the facts do. At any rate, it adds up to an extremely consistent pattern. And we still have a major commitment in the Gulf because he didn't have the spine to finish the job. This is an absurd and disingenuis statement. Mr. Bush did precisely what the mandate called for, nothing more, nothing less, and his restraint was a clear indication of his true leadership. Had he gone a step further, the carefully constructed coalition would have fractured at once (like it did once the nitwit Clinton got in office). I might add, had he gone one step further, you and the other liberals would have been shouting at the tops of your lungs about how he violated the mandate. The Persian Gulf war was as close to a perfectly managed military campaign as is conceivable. It just doesn't get any more professional than that. but the Cold War would have ended sooner or later. This statement is ridiculous. Suppose, just for a minute, that the likes of Clinton and Carter had been managing the situation. We'd STILL have a Cold War today!!! The Soviet Union might well still be hanging on. But Reagan's immortal words, "Tear Down This Wall", set the tone. Can you see Clinton making a demand like this? You may well revise history in your own mind. But to suggest that Carter had any positive effect on the American military is an outrage. Carter devasted the military, and left it in total disarray. He gutted our military intelligence operation. If you'll remember, you liberals were all proclaiming "nuclear proliferation" as your number one reason for NOT electing Reagan. Then, after eight years, of strong leadership, nuclear proliferation is no longer an issue. Why was it such an issue in previous administrations? Because liberals simply don't have what it takes to stand up to a strong adversary like Reagan did. Go ahead, rewrite history in your own mind to accommodate your own liberalism. But it is crystal clear that history will be truly told over time, and the damage liberalism has done will come out.

To: combjelly who wrote (137811)	6/29/2001 2:04:00 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1584762

The Soviets were making decent progress until the Reagan administration started feeding the Afganis smart weapons. They pretty much rendered the Soviet tanks and helicopters useless. As Afganistan wore on, it became obvious to the USSR that their entire military needed to be rebuilt to reach it's goal of taking Europe, much less be able to defend itself if attacked by the West. Since their economy was already over-extended to build what they had, the standard of living in Poland and East Germany was already higher than it was in Moscow, they couldn't afford to do that without major changes. It was these factors that caused their collapse, not Reagan calling them names. The weapons we sold or gave to the Afganis didn't make Soviet tanks and helicopters useless they just made them no longer dominent. Carter started a buildup but it had not gone far by the time Reagan came in to office. Part of the reason that there economy could not build a military to keep up with ours was Reagan's military spending. I can agree that the Soviet Union's system contained the seeds of its own distruction, but Reagan gave it a push (and then Gorbachov tried to reform the system while leaving the communists in charge and found out it wouldn't work) Tim