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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: American Spirit who wrote (156928)7/1/2001 1:48:20 PM
From: Sly_  Respond to of 769667
 
A.S., You sure do write a lot not to say anything (e)



To: American Spirit who wrote (156928)7/1/2001 2:12:20 PM
From: Thomas A Watson  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769667
 
Dear dear as, >>>>> I did Prince William Sound years before the Exxon Valdez despoiled much of it. It was the richest most pristine environment imaginable.

If case you don't know, Prince William Sound no longer shows any visible artefacts of the Exxon Valdez accident. Of course we have the order of magnitude worse right-wing conspiracy environmental disaster of Mount St. Helens and that area has also recovered.

>>>>>The Exxon Valdez did more damage in one week can even be described.
This is always a true statement of the technically retarded or zero technology comprehension crowd.
Of course they could not even describe the damage caused by a windshield colliding with a moth.


I am curious as you speak.
>>>>>> I would like to think future generations of kids can
have some of the experiences I have had in the wild
Is this the opinion of what you want for other peoples kids.
I've three children and they all love and participate in activities that use and enhance and teach others about the science of nature. As the skipper of a Sea Scout ship I put lots of time into giving young people the opportunity to experience nature and the forces of nature.
watman.com There are hundreds of my pics capturing youth leaning about American spirit of honor, hard work and honesty and respect for others and being morally straight.
Teamwork watman.com
Bravery watman.com
Nature wins. watman.com

So once again mr. clueless windbag,
you made this statement referring to Rush.
>>>>>then he's constantly wrong about issues, facts and figures.

say constantly is greater than 1/3. So please demonstrate with some facts if you are a
clueless windbag lying sack of feces or so well informed. If what you say is true then the
internet should provide you with hundreds of documented cases of Rush's errors.

Me, I think you are at best a clueless windbag.

you all have nice day now hear.

tom watson tosiwmee



To: American Spirit who wrote (156928)7/1/2001 2:37:17 PM
From: Johannes Pilch  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
You believe this goes into “religious areas.” Hehe. This is just a little too dang dumb, fella. You can’t even see dang priorities, like Folks gotta fight for the dang forests before they fight for the unborn. You betta git outta heah and take dem danged high powered, extra-strength meds before you come on heah postin’ this weird crap. (grin)



To: American Spirit who wrote (156928)7/1/2001 3:13:47 PM
From: greenspirit  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 769667
 
Conservative wins shake Republican establishment
By Ralph Z. Hallow
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
washtimes.com

Republicans long have worried about how they could improve their electoral performances in the Northeast, but Tuesday's victory by conservative New Jersey City Mayor Bret Schundler over his establishment-supported rival, Bob Franks, for the Republican gubernatorial nomination, has convinced many in the party that New Jersey — once governed by liberal Republican Christie Whitman — may become more receptive to a conservative Republican message.

Mr. Schundler's victory has convinced some of Mr. Franks' supporters that a conservative candidate has a chance of winning the state's governorship.

"I personally am very enthusiastic about the opportunity for a real, live conservative to take a whack at winning in New Jersey," said David Norcross, a Republican National Committee member from the state who had been helping the Franks campaign but is now eager to help Mr. Schundler defeat Democrat Jim McGreevey in this fall's general election.

"New Jersey may be ready for a candidate willing to talk about issues frankly and honestly and take some risk in speaking plainly," said Mr. Norcross, who long has served as a liaison between the Republican Party's Northeast liberal wing and the national party's conservative base.

Yet Mr. Schundler's victory signifies a trend toward Republican candidates who are winning races on conservative platforms. Last week, conservative Republican J. Randy Forbes defeated liberal Democrat L. Louise Lucas in a special election in Virginia for a U.S. House seat left vacant by the death of Rep. Norman Sisisky, a Democrat.

Since the close outcome of the presidential and congressional elections in November, a prevailing assumption of the media and political establishment is that the era of President Bush will be dominated by "moderate" politicians who can capture the "political center."

Even some in the conservative press for some time have criticized Republicans who espouse conservative messages, saying the political landscape is not receptive to ideologically polarizing politicians. This argument has drawn fire from some conservative pundits who believe the Republican Party should be more openly conservative, and that candidates such as Mr. Schundler represent the future of the party.

"What is it with conservative magazines and conservative candidates?" asked Joel C. Rosenberg, columnist for World, an Internet magazine. He noted that the conservative National Review panned Mr. Schundler's candidacy and that the Weekly Standard did the same, calling the New Jersey Republican's campaign ads "preposterous."

Mr. Rosenberg noted that the Standard said Mr. Schundler's "Reaganesque policies aren't 'resonating,' ... his criticism of Bob Franks' liberal tax-raising record is 'absurd' Schundler has absolutely no chance of winning the general election."

The magazine said, "it's an open question whether a candidate of Schundler's sort could, if elected, even run a state like New Jersey."

Like many other conservatives, Mr. Rosenberg expressed astonishment at such predictions. "One expects such smug, sniveling, elitist snootiness from Dan Rather and The Washington Post," he said. "But must writers for supposedly conservative publications abandon and abuse ideological kindred spirits even as such candidates try to advance conservative principles?"

Republican consultant Charles Black has suggested one explanation. "Some get their philosophical and policy guidance from National Review and the Weekly Standard, but they are not campaign or political experts, and some of us political hacks recognized Schundler and his political message had a good chance," Mr. Black said.



To: American Spirit who wrote (156928)7/1/2001 3:16:49 PM
From: greenspirit  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769667
 
Pollster warns Dems: Bush and Hispanics connecting
usatoday.com

WASHINGTON (AP) — A Hispanic pollster warned House Democrats at a private strategy session that President Bush is connecting with Hispanics and Democrats need to do more to counter his campaign.

"He's romancing them and appealing to them at a personal level and the Democrats are doing nothing," Miami pollster Sergio Bendixen said Thursday in an interview.

Republicans immediately seized on the comments of the pollster, who has advised Democratic candidates in the past, as evidence their outreach efforts to Hispanics are gaining traction.

"The more Hispanics learn about the Republican Party, the more they realize that they belong," said Sharon Castillo. "Nobody understands Latinos better than this president, because of his whole record in Texas, proximity to Mexico."

She said Bush is addressing issues important to Hispanics such as education and Democrats have taken the Hispanic vote for granted.

Bush got 35% of the Hispanic vote in 2000 after a concentrated effort to reverse earlier strategies. Democrats are determined to keep that GOP percentage from growing in future elections.

Hispanics currently identify with the Democratic Party at levels ranging from 60% to 80% in most states, though Hispanic support was evenly split in 2000 in Florida, with its heavily Republican Cuban-American community.

"Bush is connecting with Hispanics because he grew up around Mexican Americans and feels comfortable with them, very similar to the way (former President) Jimmy Carter felt comfortable with African-American voters," said Bendixen, who has advised Democratic candidates in the past.

He said at the House session Wednesday that Democrats need a spokesman to connect with Hispanics on the issues. And they need to educate Hispanics that Bush is not their friend.

A new Gallup poll showed that six in 10 Hispanics approve of the job Bush is doing. That's the same approval rate that whites gave Bush in the poll. The Hispanic population has grown 58% since 1990, making them an appealing target for the political parties.

Democratic national Chairman Terry McAuliffe was in California Wednesday to help register hundreds of newly naturalized citizens to vote.

"We carried the Hispanic vote 2-to-1 ... they have a problem and we don't," said Democratic strategist Michael Meehan, who said Democrats have positions on the issues that will attract Hispanic voters. "It's clearly a top priority of the Democratic Party to attract a similar level of support that we have in the past."



To: American Spirit who wrote (156928)7/1/2001 7:28:07 PM
From: jlallen  Respond to of 769667
 
I may be dead and gone soon but I would like to think future generations of kids can have some of the experiences I have had in the wilds. With leaders like Bush/Cheney in charge (if they had their way) in time it would almost all be gone, and I am not exaggerating. If you look at the damage caused just since I was a boy in the 70's you can easily see how within 20-30 years many of our natural glories could cease to exist or just be a few protected monuments to what once was.

What a bunch of crap. You belong with the other nutjobs over on the "Impeach Bush" thread.

JLA



To: American Spirit who wrote (156928)7/1/2001 9:00:17 PM
From: jlallen  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
More Liberal Hypocrisy on the Environment

www.mediaresearch.org

ABC’s John Stossel lashed out on Wednesday’s O’Reilly Factor on FNC at the "totalitarian left" which wants to "silence critics" and persuaded some parents to insist interviews with their kids be pulled from Stossel’s Friday night special which dares to question the environmental left’s orthodoxy.

On Thursday’s Good Morning America he offered a milder rebuke about how he’s "upset that activists got to these parents and frightened them about me." On the June 28 GMA Charles Gibson asked him, as observed by MRC analyst Jessica Anderson: "This special has touched off some controversy. Some people came forward and objected to interviews that had been done with their children, two months after the interviews had been done, and asked that the interviews be removed and they have been taken out. Every TV writer in the country seems to have weighed in on this. Your comment on it."
Stossel: "Well, I'm upset that activists got to these parents and frightened them about me. I'm upset that we had to take this out and we've put something in that I think is interesting, but I can understand why ABC felt that they had to because these are children and who are we to go against the wishes of the parents?"

For background on this trumped-up liberal controversy, go to:
mrc.org

In Thursday’s Washington Post, Howard Kurtz relayed Stossel’s comments on FNC’s The O’Reilly Factor the night before. An excerpt from Kurtz’s June 28 story:

ABC's John Stossel hit back at his detractors yesterday, accusing environmental activists of having "brainwashed" a group of California parents into insisting that the network pull his interview with their grade-school children.

Responding to his critics at the Washington-based Environmental Working Group, Stossel said on Fox News Channel's O'Reilly Factor: "I call them the totalitarian left. They want to silence people who criticize them."

Ken Cook, the group's president, dismissed Stossel's comments as "preposterous," saying: "If anyone's trying to limit debate it's John Stossel, by suggesting commie lefties are behind this as some sort of plot....He's a bully and he's finally been challenged."

The heated words followed ABC News's decision to yank the footage of Stossel interviewing 10 children about environmental issues after the parents, who had contacted Cook's group, withdrew their consent. The parents say they were never told that Stossel was involved in the program, which airs Friday, and that he pushed the students to give the kind of responses he wanted.

Stossel said he is "not happy" about ABC's decision to withdraw the footage but that "I see their point. These are children....If parents don't want their kids on, who are we to force them?"

But Stossel contended that the parents had been "thrilled" and changed their mind only after "environmental educators talked to them. I don't blame them for being scared after what these people probably said about me....People said, 'He's going to distort. He lies. In the past, he's faked things.' They make up stories about me and the parents get scared."...

On the footage that ABC has withdrawn, the children say yes when Stossel asks whether they thought America is more polluted and the air and water dirtier than they used to be -- which, as Stossel noted, is untrue.

Stossel then says on the tape: "What sad distortions to feed children."

In the O'Reilly interview, Stossel accused the school system of brainwashing students and, in another swipe at environmentalists, assailed "the extremists who dominate the debate." Environmental activists, said Stossel, "shouldn't be scaring people the way they are."

END Excerpt

For all of Kurtz’s piece, go to:
washingtonpost.com

On Thursday afternoon the MRC’s President, L. Brent Bozell, issued this statement in a press release:

ALEXANDRIA, Va. -- Media Research Center President Brent Bozell blasted the ultra-left wing Environmental Working Group for shamelessly manipulating parents of young children to attack ABC News correspondent John Stossel over his special on how scare tactics are used to perpetuate a one-sided view of environmental issues.

"John Stossel has a point of view that is vastly under-represented on networks like ABC, and his reporting is factual and honest. That's why the Left can't stand him, and will stoop to anything to get him off the air. These parents were in the room when their kids were interviewed. They saw John Stossel interview them. They said nothing for two months. If they really had concerns they could have raised them then and there with ABC, but they’ve instead been manipulated by this left-wing group in search of an anti-Stossel publicity splash just as his report is about to air," Bozell said.

"ABC is right to be sensitive to parents’ concerns, but when parents can be so easily manipulated as part of a witch hunt to knock an honest journalist off the air, it sends a dangerous signal to all reporters who would dare question the Left’s agenda -- on the environment or any other issue," Bozell said.

"Mr. Stossel’s premise is absolutely true as our own exhaustive research has found: information on environmental issues like global warming are presented in almost a totally one-sided fashion. As a parent myself I find it insulting and appalling that both adults and children are consistently bombarded with advocacy journalism that misleads and misinforms the very public to which the media are responsible," Bozell said.

END reprint of press release

Stossel’s special, Tampering with Nature, airs tonight, Friday June 29 at 10pm EDT/PDT, 9pm CDT/MDT in the 20/20 slot. Washington, DC area cable subscribers will also be able to watch it at 8pm Saturday night on NewsChannel 8. Today’s Washington Post TV listings reports that Stossel "questions whether warnings about genetic engineering, human cloning and global warming are overhyped."

The vitriolic reaction from the environmental left is sure to be overhyped. -- Brent Baker