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To: TigerPaw who wrote (3991)	7/1/2001 7:16:31 PM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 93284

The "Dumb and Dumber" Department...(pussypaw a charter member) From the "Constitutional Scholar -- NOT!" Department, Mr. Dennis Henigan of Handgun Control, Inc., needs some very elementary assistance in understanding our nation's guiding document. Recently, Attorney General John Ashcroft said, "Just as the First and Fourth Amendment secure individual rights of speech and security respectively, the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms." To which, Mr. Henigan replied, "It is astonishing that our nation's chief law enforcement officer would have such a grossly misinformed position on a fundamental constitutional issue." Gun control commissars are furious that Mr. Ashcroft has proposed that the FBI dispose of guns purchase records within 24 hours of a sale rather than maintaining that data for 180 days. Of course, if gun registration information passes through central government computers for a nanosecond, only the most nescient gun owner would assume it is not permanently stored in some black hole. Memo to Mr. Henigan: As we approach Independence Day, perhaps we should check in with Thomas Jefferson, the author of that old Declaration, on the subject of the Second Amendment. He stated clearly, "No free man shall ever be debarred from the use of arms." Still having trouble with the concept, Mr. Henigan? James Madison, the author of that old Constitution, appointed Justice Joseph Story to his Supreme Court. Justice Story said of the Second Amendment, "The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of the Republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers...." But then, perhaps Jefferson, Madison and Story were just" grossly misinformed." ..... or maybe you (pussypaw) are just an ignorant, arrogant, dipwad. JLA

To: TigerPaw who wrote (3991)	7/1/2001 8:57:32 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93284

Read this, Commissar: Message 16019563 This appears to me to be a gross abuse of due process. I have heard of many cases of the sort that article discusses: someone is accused of drug dealing, their cars, house, boat, whatever are confiscated by the government and sold. (And if the bust is made by a non-federal agency, such as your local sheriff, they get a cut. My, my, what a nice swindle. And what an incentive for false accusation!) Later the person is acquitted. Found not guilty by a jury. Do they get their property back? Nope. Do you not see a problem here? If so, since this scam has been held to be legal by the coiurts, what is to be done about it? Don't you think maybe we should hold onto our guns a while longer if the government is going to engage in behavour such as this?