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To: S100 who wrote (13243)	7/2/2001 5:13:51 PM
From: Eric L	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

S100, << We had a few Data General computers, Some Eclipse, and Novas >> In the early eighties I sold systems powered by redundant dual Novas with core memory and removable disk pack (using dual parallel input processing) incorporated in the back room and communicating to host, and to other controllers and terminals. I have great respect for those pieces of iron which were very dated even at that time, but exceptionally reliable, and very well suited to the system we marketed which required constant uptime. Our engineers attempted to port our software for our excellent system to the Micro-Eclipse. They never successfully did it. << Many of the things he talked about seemed to be right on. May be very close on Nokia also, >> Maybe. It was however very obvious that he had relatively little exposure to Nokia, and in response to a question used them (as a market leader) to fit into one of his favorite thesis - to wit: "When new technologies case great firms to fail" - which is of course the title of the book which made him a household name in tech circles. So maybe Nokia catches the big wave, maybe they don't. but I'm betting they do, but will be watching closely. << On your question on Nokia making all new CDMA phones on 1xRTT, I would look at their track record. The statement by the Nokia guy that they have solved the 5185i problem kind of, sort of, maybe. Seems that they are hoping the CDMA spec will be changed to match what ever they hacked out.(fat chance) Not too likely, and poor plan for the future. What ever we make, change the spec so we meet it. >> "Hoping the CDMA spec will be changed to match what ever they hacked out", I think is simply an old possibility, under consideration momentarily, and not under consideration now. Last I heard the network patch was being tested, as the most foolproof, cost effective (for all parties) way of insuring all Nokia CDMA phones in the field (dating back to 1997) would not freeze on a network upgraded to 1xRTT). I am also under the impression that current 5185i's/6185's were upgraded to correct the problem. Regardless of what we here, proof of resolution is when cdmaOne Nokia models are back on Verizon's shelves and on the website, since Gerace of Verizon was most vocal individual on this subject, and obviously Verizon has largest exposure. Interesting that Verizon resellers like Radio Shack still offering the 5185i. << Nokia making all new CDMA phones on 1xRTT, I would look at their track record. >> Nokia has to deal with that. - Eric -

To: S100 who wrote (13243)	7/2/2001 5:56:24 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

Seems to me that the Ultra is just a rack??? Like the racks of IBM and DEC?? OFDMA -MCM is not a new technology; forms of multicarrier systems are currently used in DSL modems, and digital audio/video broadcast (DAB/DVB) Who is working hard on digital, terrestrial TV, in spite of Rupert Murdoch and "digital must carry"?? Anw who bought that italian guy, company who did the first stuff?? (not the french Fourier, he is dead and buried) -Many of the things he talked about seemed to be right on. Yes, matches IBM, except for the AT-spec, and Intel, and MSFT, except for the open source code they just had to admit the used, the one which actually works. -May be very close on Nokia also Like building standards in ITU, with their global customers having the majority vote?? Ilmarinen P.S. Who coined this "the Customer is King" thing?? P.P.S. VMS was almost as protected as what Intel tried to implement, and did, but MSFT couldn't handle, not to forget those happy fights with AMD.. Not to forget why Linus Thorvalds did it for intel, tired of DOS-Win16 and SUN-expensive.