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To: stribe30 who wrote (137847)	7/2/2001 10:16:25 PM
From: i-node	Respond to of 1584760

I think the "invention" of the social safety net to help catch those falling thru the cracks of the excesses of capitalism is a marvellous thing It is a "marvelous thing", maybe, but like a virus it will eventually overtake and destroy its own host. The simple truth is that liberals (or socialists, whatever) never met a government giveaway they didn't like. And SS, like the rest of them, doesn't work and never has. The hard times spared generations of the last 60 years will be paid for for many years to come. While the conservatives want to solve the problem, the liberals want to use it as a political weapon. The result is that the world's largest pyramid scheme fraud is on the brink of collapse. SS would have collapsed in the 80s had Congress not applied a band-aid under Reagan. But the reality is that there can be no solution other than to let future generations take their hits and try to move on. I hope that, if nothing else, for centuries into the future, the failed SS program will be pointed to as an example of why liberalism should be attacked at every turn. Like an infestation of cockroaches, you must stamp out every sign of liberalism each and every time it appears, lest you be subject to an ever-growing infestation of socialist disincentives and the temptation for the masses to be taken astray by liberals with the sole agenda of enhancing their OWN wealth.

To: stribe30 who wrote (137847)	7/5/2001 11:07:13 AM
From: TimF	Respond to of 1584760

Stribe, "conservative" like "liberal" is a word with many meanings esp. in different contexts. >>>>> Conservatives arent great for everything my friend... it was "conservatives" who didnt wish for slavery to end.. or for the Civil Rights Movement to succeed.. or apartheid to end in South Africa... or for perestroika to fail in the Soviet Union. >>>>> Lincon was a conservative (the first REpublican president). His number one aim was restoring the union, but he did want slavery to end. There where "conservative" groups that opposed ending apartheid but that was "conservative" more in the definition of "resistant to change" there really is no link with and very little similarity to conservatives in the US. I am glad perestroika did fail in the Soviet Union. Perestroika was an attempt to restructure and make things more efficient while leaving the communists in charge. Tim