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To: Poet who wrote (4)	7/4/2001 12:53:50 PM
From: JustTradeEm	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1857

Happy 4th Po .... nice to see you around !!!! JB

To: Poet who wrote (4)	7/4/2001 1:15:40 PM
From: X Y Zebra	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1857

I have seen Shrek not seen AI. Shrek is good but you have to be a little familiar with the Katzenberg (Dream Works -- who made the film) and Eisner (Disney) saga to catch the sarcasm in the film... Supposedly, the King of the "perfect kingdom" in the film is a sarcastic view of Disney and the way Eisner runs it. (Eisner is supposed to be portrayed as the tiny king in the film) Then you also have to be somehow familiar how Disney runs their entertainment parks (sparkling clean, and with perfect smiles) I admit that their standards of quality are high, but sometimes the excessive "smiles" and Mickey Mouse attitude does get to me... So given that, I kind of enjoy the sarcasm in the film... btw... I am no expert in Hollywood, I just happen to have a small "inside window" so what you hear is "second hand" Other than that.. well.. it is a cartoon movie, so bare that in mind. I saw tomb raider and I loved it... (not to mention Angelina Jollie ) what a rebel !! About the movie: (WOW what a web site... but you need a high speed connection and lots of graphic capabilities...) tombraidermovie.com About Angelina Jollie: tombraiders.com tombraiders.com ajolie.com Anjelina plays the star role of Laura Croft, the daughter of a wealthy English archeologist, Lord Henshingly Croft who disappeared mysteriously in an expedition. She has been educated in the finest English and Swiss schools and speaks several languages, she is well groomed in the fine arts of martial self defense (not to mention she can read hieroglyphs (picture writing) too --in short your average rich girl --NOT (ggg)-- ) Anyway... it is an action packed film (yes, after the computer video game) fun to watch, particularly, for a male I suppose.. -g- I loved the web site.. and spent some time in it. sorry for my delay in responding (gg). Edit: Finally, reportedly Anjellina (who is John Voihght's daughter did many of her own stunts...) Oh and at first, I thought she was Ashley Judd... (they could be twins) Look at the similarity between Ashley Judd: cinema-stars.com cinema-stars.com and Anjellina Jollie ajolie.com ajolie.com

To: Poet who wrote (4)	7/4/2001 1:58:04 PM
From: SmoothSail	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1857

~^~^~SPLASH~^~^~ Oooops, Sorry. Didn't mean to get everyone wet. I kinda slipped. Happy 4th, Poet. You can untie those dogs tails now.

To: Poet who wrote (4)	7/5/2001 11:35:46 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1857

Hi Poet - Interesting place - "Jewelry & Silverware"? I took the boys to see AI a couple of days ago. I'd give it an 8, Ben gives it an 8.5, Nick gives it a 5. My understanding is that Kubrick and Spielberg collaborated on it via a private fax line but don't know the details. I would guess that much of the first hour, at least, was at the story-board stage before Kubrick died, because visually it is very Kubrick-esque. There is an eerie element of visual alienation in Kubrick's work, especially in 2001 but in the others, too - something unique in his vision, so when I see it in AI I assume Kubrick set it up, although maybe it's Spielberg imitating (homage?) Kubrick. That kept me visually intrigued. Another thing that kept me intrigued was looking for the Pinocchio references - I would say that they really don't start until after the first hour, until the Pinocchio element of the story has been introduced and the boy begins his journey. There are too many disparate elements for the movie to work as a story, which is probably why most people won't like it. The story works on a fairy-tale level - and it strives towards the level of eternal, universal truth that good fairy tales convey. I think that's where it fails, but it's not a bad failure. The truth it conveys (it's wrong to make someone love you if you can't love them back) is true, but not universal, at least I don't think so. A good fairy tale collector would put it in the collection, but it's not one of the stories that the children would ask for again and again. It's not Pinocchio. Technically, it's flawless - both men are/were masters. (Afterthought - There's a Buddhist expression that fits the boy, a hungry ghost, with an insatiable yearning - maybe the story works on that level. Was Kubrick Buddhist?)