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To: Rambi who wrote (5014)	7/5/2001 3:30:59 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6089

Why on earth did they conceive again? I'm with you on this one. When I hear the father talking about the death of his children as God's Will, all I can think of is contraception. During his first press conference, he said that they had just started talking about not continuing to let nature take its course. Duh. EDIT And no, that hasn't been covered on TV. I saw Bill O'Reilly express the opinion that the father failed to protect his children. I haven't seen it anywhere else. Before the judge restrained the parties from talking, there was a rumor reported that she is pregnant again. Karen

To: Rambi who wrote (5014)	7/5/2001 3:42:07 PM
From: The Philosopher	Respond to of 6089

I also can't help but hold the husband somewhat accountable on this front and am curious how the men perceive this The men perceive this as radical feminist clap-trap. Naw, just kidding. But I'm not sure we know enough to know whether and if so how he's accountable. Just because they got pregnant again? If she was on medication, presumably he was making sure she got medical and psychogical or psychiatric care. If this pregnancy was dangerous to her mental health, did her doctor advise ending the pregnancy, and if so did he refuse? Did she want the extra child, and he think it would be good for her? Did a doctor, minister, or somebody else advise him that they should go ahead with another pregnancy? We just don't know enough -- or at least I don't. I'm probably even less of a newspaper reader than you are, since I don't think I've held a newspaper other than our local papers in my hands in several months, and haven't watched news on TV for years. So my unawareness of all the facts may be affecting my opinions.

To: Rambi who wrote (5014)	7/5/2001 4:45:22 PM
From: Poet	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6089

The issue of Andrea Yates' husband is troublesome to me as well. We do know that PPD gets worse with each successive pregnancy and I feel he was morally (though not legally) responsible for the safety of his children and wife when it became apparent she was psychotic. I'd like to know more about this type of PPD: what the incidence of violent behavior is, toward either the self (on the part of the mother) or the children. I'll try to dig up more in the coming days and post it here. I have had experience with women who were hospitalized for depression and saw that, pretty much to a person, their relationships with their husbands were really out of whack at the time. A number of patients' husbands were furious with them. Some were served with divorce papers while hospitalized. Others' husbands had assumed the role of caregiver to both wife and children. Whether this happened before the depression, concurrent with it, or as a result, was impossible to figure. But surely the emotional balance in a marriage when one partner is severly compromised gets way off kilter.