To: TimF who wrote (137918 ) 7/5/2001 9:41:00 PM From: tejek Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1584510 .it was the status quo they wished to maintain.....a typical trait of conservatives. After all, it was the status quo of that time that helped them realize their great wealth. Collectivelty they changed the country. Thats not the status quo. Most people consider me a conservative, but I want less taxes and regulation, and also other changes, not the status quo. Tim, I think that most would consider your desires a little reactionary. Less taxes and regulation is from another time...it worked to some degree then but its unlikely to work now. I know I have said this before but I will say it again, people who think like you do[and this is not intended as a put down] need to be in places where reg. is not necessary at this time. For an example, I suggested before the Australian outback. Another possibility is some of the more agrarian states in Africa. I met a guy a while back who is thinking of emigrating to the country that used to be called Rhodesia. He really likes that the laws are few and there is little taxation. I am not sure that the lack of taxes and reg. simply works in those places, or that they just don't have the complex problems found in dense, urban environments with many diverse cultures. In a developed country like ours, I think the best you can hope for is keeping taxes in line, and simplifying the intent of new laws. If that doesn't prove frustrating to you, then there should not be a problem.Your statements assume that their way was the only way. On the contrary, had the development and exploitation of our natural resources been done more fairly and wisely, we would have a lot more of those resources left today and a great deal more people would have benefit. If an attempt was made to develop slowly and only after carefully weighing every possibility then the country would be far less developed. Real life is a messy jumble that usually changes quickly and anyone who would try to plan economic changes to try and make them "fair and wise" usually will not have the information needed to formulate the plans until after they have all ready implimented an incorrect plan. I agree that real life is a messy jumble but I don't think it needs to result in development that rapes the land. After all, the development occurrs because there is demand for the resource and not because some guy wants to get rich quickly. However, to do anything right usually requires additional thinking and planning....not the strong suit for entrepreneurs. In addition, their profits would not have been as great...they would have been rich but not is rich. Don't forget the meaning of their common name....robber barons.....a stealing aristocrat. Also people are normally not willing to take large risks without the posibility of large rewards. That's true esp. when the lesser rewards are front loaded.How would you have made all the changes in the economy that happened in the 19th century "fair" and "wise"? I would have not allowed the land to have been so mercilously exploited [strip burning, open mining, deforestation, etc] and allowed them to abuse and enslave so many people including children. Many mines were built so poorly that when the easy mineral had been gotten, the mine had to be closed because it would cost too much and be too dangerous to access the rest of the ore. It was much easier to jump to a new mine. Today those same mines [with remaining ore] have to be rebuilt at today's costs to access the ore that is still there. Most historians suggest we lost alot in the process of developing this nation. To see that played out today look at the countries that still have great mineral wealth like Nigeria or Mexico or Venezuala. As with those countries, the loss for the society at large isd much greater than the gain. Its believed only the robber barons truly benefitted. ted