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To: tcmay who wrote (138687)	7/5/2001 7:11:34 PM
From: maui_dude	Respond to of 186894

Tim, Re : "This was the strategy a while back with the "CRUSH Program," which all of us at Intel were involved with" "drive AMD and TMTA out of markets" did you say you worked for Intel ? (or was it microsoft ?) Maui.

To: tcmay who wrote (138687)	7/5/2001 7:13:54 PM
From: andreas_wonisch	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Tim, Re: But CRUSHING AMD is the best way for Intel to prosper Make up your mind. Only six weeks ago you wrote: But I expect Intel managers are constantly thinking about the DOJ and FTC mandarins sitting in D.C. looking for any chance to make their careers by attacking Intel for "unfair" or "monopolistic" or other practices they whine about. [...] If the threat of a DOJ or FTC or Raph Nader or Jesse Jackson public spectacle didn't exist, we could no doubt have "CRUSH II--Slapdown in the Silicon Valley." Message 15904212; If AMD prospers, it only exists because Intel wants them to. If AMD suffers, Intel is crushing them. Paul would probably call this droid logic. But I'm not Paul. Andreas

To: tcmay who wrote (138687)	7/5/2001 7:19:52 PM
From: Road Walker	Respond to of 186894

Tim, re: But CRUSHING AMD is the best way for Intel to prosper Antitrust, DOJ and FTC, and the recently feisty EU. A crushed AMD is also the best way for Intel to get it's business model rewritten by children posing as civil servants and lawyers. Crush is a good short term plan, not a good long term plan. John (reference Microsoft & GE)

To: tcmay who wrote (138687)	7/5/2001 7:27:19 PM
From: NITT	Respond to of 186894

re: "This was the strategy a while back with the "CRUSH Program," Intel's crush program was the design win program for the 8086 back in 1979 and 1980 that was more about winning designs for the 8086 vs 68000. Intel won a key design at IBM that let to today's situation. They had a follow on in the mid 80's to push the 286 and 186 in markets other than the PC, because the PC market wasn't looked at as "the Market". The campaigns of the last decade were about transitioning from 286 to 386 to 486 to Pentium, PII PIII, and now PIV. The original Pentium campaign was pretty aggressive, but the PIV transitions is the most aggressive and probably helped along by competition from AMD and the recent slow down in the growth of the PC industry. Intel laid in a lot of capacity, and appears very willing to use it to drive the transition to PIV. I assume the roadmap announcement in two weeks will confirm this even more. Nitt