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To: epicure who wrote (17712)	7/6/2001 9:33:52 AM
From: Bill	Respond to of 82486

<< say it as if it were fact- but it isn't, yet. >> The rape (or non-rape) is a fact already. Our knowledge of the fact is still not fully established.

To: epicure who wrote (17712)	7/6/2001 9:34:19 AM
From: dave rose	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

<<you probably ought to say allegedly->> I do not feel I am under any constraints of law that I must say "allegedly". I looked at the evidence, considered the background of the offender and came to the conclusion that he was guilty. If Clinton wants to sue me for slander, lets go to court. In cases of slander, truth is the best defense.

To: epicure who wrote (17712)	7/6/2001 7:27:55 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Brodderick was allegedly raped by Clinton dear- unless you were there and saw it, or until it is proven in a court of law, you probably ought to say allegedly- if you want to be accurate. Technically, of course, you're right. But to a large number of feminists, the accusation of rape is proof of rape. They claim that no woman would make the charge if it weren't true. (Twana Brawley notwithstanding; I know of feminists who are still convinced she was actually raped.) Except when the alleged rapist is someone the feminists like. Then, suddenly, the principles change. If it had been Bush she had accused of raping her (either one) on the identical accusation, you can guarantee that there would have been national headlines for months, and that the feminist movement would have been absolutely unified in the position that the accusation constituted adequate proof of the fact.