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To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (48811)7/6/2001 9:25:26 PM
From: Shoibal Datta  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 70976
 
The internet and the FO space was indeed a bubble; the same could not be said of the SCE sector IMO

Brian, bubbles are relative. While semi and SCE sector bubbles may not have been as egregious as the internet and FO sectors they did exist.

Case in point:
AMAT 1995 revenues: 3061 mm
AMAT 2000 revenues: 9564 mm
Fold increase (revenues): ca. 3-fold

AMAT Jan 1996 stock price: ca $9
AMAT 2000 peak stock price: ca $ 115
Fold increase (stock price): ca. 12-fold

Case in point:
INTC 1995 revenues: 16202 mm
INTC 2000 revenues: 33726 mm
Fold increase (revenues): ca. 2 fold

INTC Jan 1996 stock price: ca $10
INTC 2000 peak stock price: ca $ 75
Fold increase (stock price): ca. 7.5 fold

Revenue numbers are from smartmoney.com and stock prices are from a bloomberg.com 5 year chart

The stock prices appreciated ca 7-12 fold when revenues increased 2-3 fold. That does not seem rational to me. I'm sure that there are holes in this kind of analysis, but I generally do not ascribe to the "things are different this time" philosophy.

-SD



To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (48811)7/7/2001 1:05:11 AM
From: Math Junkie  Respond to of 70976
 
The internet and the FO space was indeed a bubble; the same could not be said of the SCE sector IMO.

Last year the P/E got to about double what it had been on previous peaks, so yes, the sector was affected by the stock market bubble valuations. It is still being affected, because the various valuation measures are about double what they have been in past troughs.