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To: American Spirit who wrote (158683)7/7/2001 4:33:54 PM
From: FastC6  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
As I recall from history, America was founded and immigrated by mostly Europeans.... If it was so good why did they come to America?

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To: American Spirit who wrote (158683)7/7/2001 4:50:20 PM
From: jlallen  Respond to of 769667
 
"There are no permanent national alliances, only permanent national interests....." G. Washington

JLA



To: American Spirit who wrote (158683)7/7/2001 5:08:20 PM
From: J.B.C.  Respond to of 769667
 
>>Europe does owe us and we also owe them. We are in this together. And they have a lot to teach us in many ways, as we have them. << Pure BS. Europe is heading more and more down the road to one large socialist state. What is it we have to learn? That they pollute more / therm use than us? That they convinced mentally challenged people like you that kyoto was good for the world instead of actually being a way for them to steal from American's pockets? That their economy sucks right now yet they refuse to lower their interest and tax rate? That they stuck their thumb in the economic eye by blocking the GE- Honeywell merger.

They envy our economy and status and they will do everything to take that from us in a heart beat.

Your hatred shows more and more in every post, you can't tell the truth from fiction in your mind and you don't let facts get in the way of your hyperbole.

Jim



To: American Spirit who wrote (158683)7/7/2001 5:13:04 PM
From: jlallen  Respond to of 769667
 
More on the Clinton Legacy

www.newsmax.com
Saturday July 7, 2001; 2:18 p.m. EDT
Monica Could Hit the Jackpot with Love Dress Paternity Test

If Monica Lewinsky really wants to cash in on the return this week of her DNA-laden Clinton love dress, her best bet isn't a private collector or even a public auction.

It's the supermarket tabloids -- who have been trying for years to obtain a genuine sample of the philanderer-in-chief's DNA to compare with a 16-year-old Little Rock teen's whose family claims Clinton is his father.

Lewinsky said in the past that she wouldn't sell the dress and even told ABC's Barbara Walters that she wanted to burn it.

But with the Clinton-stained frock in hand, all bets are apparently off.

After Independent Counsel Robert Ray acknowledged returning the garment to Monica on Friday, Lewinsky spokeswoman Judy Nadler declined to rule out selling the hot little blue number, and said nothing about torching it.

How hot is it?

Collectibles expert Gary Zimet calls the impeachment love dress "the most extraordinary piece of clothing in 20th century presidential history." He told the New York Post that it could fetch as much as $2 million from the right buyer.

Other auction experts say the dress may be worth a relatively paltry $500,000.

Yet both figures may be on the low side compared with the jackpot available from the tabloids, which still feature stories about Arkansas teenager Danny Williams, whose family told NewsMax.com in 1998 that a DNA test would prove his presidential pedigree.

Back then, before a real paternity test could be arranged (a prominent New York civil rights attorney was ready to consult with Danny's guardian on a possible lawsuit), Star Magazine stepped in and offered the family a bundle if the boy's DNA matched a sample of Clinton's genetic material.

But the only genetic information Star Magazine had on Clinton was the short sequence of DNA markers available in Independent Counsel Ken Starr's impeachment report.

Danny's sample didn't match, and his family was accused of perpetrating a get-rich-quick hoax. But a Star editor told NewsMax.com at the time that under terms the deal, Williams' family wouldn't collect a dime unless there was a match.

In other words, this was no hoax. Danny's relatives fully expected the DNA test would prove Clinton's paternity -- and were genuinely shocked when the results came back negative.

Star Magazine never reported the details of their Danny-Clinton DNA comparison. But with the president apparently off the hook the rest of the media quickly abandoned the story, despite obvious inadequacies in the tabloid's test methods.

Some experts, like noted criminologist Henry Lee, said the Starr impeachment report's DNA profile was too limited to ever prove the boy's paternity.

Then there was the refusal of the Office of Independent Counsel, the Secret Service and the FBI Lab to say whether the Clinton DNA code Ken Starr made public had been camouflaged for national security reasons, a possibilty that rendered Star Magazine's test moot.

There the story lay, until now.

And now that the financially-strapped ex-White House intern has her dress back -- evidently with Clinton's semen stain intact -- will the cash-rich tabloids be interested in conducting a real DNA test?

Stay tuned.



To: American Spirit who wrote (158683)7/7/2001 5:17:45 PM
From: ManyMoose  Respond to of 769667
 
Is that really you, American Spirit? I am shaking my head in disbelief! We shall have to go back packing together. How about around the Three Sisters. I never made it all the way around because of rotten weather.

Europe does owe us and we also owe them. We are in this together. And they have a lot to teach us in many ways, as we have them.