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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: one_less who wrote (17759)	7/7/2001 6:58:40 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Feminist agenda? You still do not understand small puppy. Steven Rogers has a humanist agenda (thank the good whatever for that, imo, etc). Perhaps the scales will be lifted for you, and perhaps they will not. Steven if I have totally misunderstood you for low these many years my MOST sincere apologies. But I never understood your concern as being that of a feminist, and it pains me to see people so completely misconstrue what you stand for. Of course partly that is because I too am a humanist, and I see our views as pretty much the same. It IS typical for people to try to stereotype other people when they get on the losing side of an argument. We must always bear that in mind. Although because we don't want to stereotype people, we probably need to keep an open mind on that.

To: one_less who wrote (17759)	7/7/2001 9:02:22 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

a typical dopie headed attempt to impose your feminist agenda. What feminist agenda? I object as strongly to the Taleban's moves toward publicly marking Hindus (you have 3 guesses about where that is leading, though one should suffice) as I do to their treatment of women. I object to their treatment of their own people. I don't propose that we invade them, but I would be perfectly supportive of maintaining their status as a pariah state, effectively closed to trade and any other form of civilized relations, until there is some evidence of progress. I wouldn't say that the Taleban are violating some abstract moral code. I would say that their behaviour is offensive to me. In this I am, I admit, much like practically everybody else in the world; I am rather pleased to admit that, it is a positive comment on the state of the world. You keep fussing over your notion that most Afghans support the Taleban. We don't know if this is true, and one wonders why, if Afghan women really want to be confined to their homes and deprived of education and health care, such violent punishments are required to convince them to accept their status. The claim is also irrelevant. If most German's had approved of the Nazi treatment of the Jews, would that have made it any less revolting?

To: one_less who wrote (17759)	7/7/2001 10:12:42 PM
From: average joe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

"...feminist agenda." And a very conceited one at that. We live in a world where if the "feminist agenda" was pushed to the final conclusion this is the creed that every little bewildered girl would be granted at birth. 1) Every woman a professional victim, from womb to tomb. 2) Every male an aggressor that needs to be controlled. 3) Since an unborn person is not human, therefore a woman carrying an unborn person is not related to that child and therefore Taleban women are a different race than Taleban men. Of course this is overly simplified but that is their logic, i.e. a man and woman type of apartheid. Right now the politics of the US State Department and the feminist are neatly in tune in Afghanistan and they are playing it like a last dance. Fight them back with their only weapon, sneer at them. sneer sneer sneer sneer sneer