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To: E who wrote (581)	7/10/2001 9:15:13 AM
From: thames_sider	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1857

I find some heroines very addictive myself... but worth experiencing, and withdrawal from them is mandatory. <now in even cheaper typo pun mode>

To: E who wrote (581)	7/10/2001 10:05:59 AM
From: Poet	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1857

My gosh, E, that is a very sobering story about your recuperation from morphine use. If someone like you got addicted, who was using it legitimately for pain and tends not to misuse medication, imagine how seductive it is to those with addictive personalities. Ever since then i've wondered how addicts who've been through such withdrawal experiences once can voluntarily start taking drugs again knowing they'll have to repeat the horror. This amazes me. I'd guess that morphine/oxycodone withdrawal can't be much different from heroine withdrawal. The symptoms are the same. The most interesting thing about addicts, IMO, is the personality structure: ie. lack of responsibility for their behavior, problems with social conscience, inability to plan for the future. To me, these aspects appear as important as the "high" itself in the recidivism aspect of drug addiction. I worked as a drug and alcohol counselor in the 80's and have a family member who is a crack addict, so I've had the unfortunate opportunity to see this close-up.

To: E who wrote (581)	7/10/2001 10:11:59 AM
From: Augustus Gloop	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1857

Imitrex is nothing. Although I should qualify that by saying that when I've had it I've been in such pain that not much would make me feel better. As you say it also has a hangover quality. Percodan and precocet seem stronger to me.....especially precocet. Vicodin is UFB. Its a siring high that accompanies pain relief. Now at this point Im sure people are thinking....Hey this gloop guy is a total junkie. Not so. I've had percocet and percodan for dental stuff and until recently had never had Vicodin. I have a stomach condition which called for the use of about 30 pills over the course of 3 months. After taking them I walked away with a whole new respect for why people get hooked on the stuff. No hangover, pain relief and a raging high. This is a drug that should be used only in specific situations. Be careful.