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To: Eric L who wrote (13501)	7/10/2001 1:00:59 PM
From: ColtonGang	Respond to of 34857

Nokia chosen as sole supplier for complete 3G network to VIAG Interkom in Germany in a deal worth approximately EUR 400 million Nokia solution enables VIAG InterKom to reap the benefits of network sharing HELSINKI, Finland--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 10, 2001-- Nokia has signed a deal for the delivery of a complete 3G network with German operator VIAG Interkom. The value of the intial phase deliveries is approximately EUR 400 million. Deliveries will begin during third quarter and the commercial network is expected to be launched during first quarter 2003. Nokia will supply mobile core infrastructure, including both packet core and circuit-switched core network elements and IN solution, as well as radio-access network equipment and professional services, which will cover both deployment and support services for Viag Interkom's new 3G network. With the support of the Nokia's 3G solution, VIAG Interkom, a current GSM operator in Germany with around four million subscribers, will be able to further extend its future services through network sharing with other leading German operators. ``We have been working with Nokia for many years as a trusted partner and they have always demonstrated a clear understanding of the need for a smooth network evolution in order that we can offer our customers the very latest services and pass on cost efficiencies,'' said Keith Cornell CEO VIAG Interkom ``Nokia's understanding of consumer needs has enabled the company to develop the solutions that allow us to succeed in the highly competitive mobile market.'' Nokia's 3G infrastructure is based on open standards, platforms and interfaces for a smooth evolution to commercial 3G services. It includes integrated end-to-end solutions, including charging, security, network management and service control applications. Nokia already offers a full range of support services and solutions to help network providers differentiate in today's fast-changing business environment and rapidly build out 3G networks. ``Nokia is delighted to be supporting VIAG Interkom as it moves into the arena of future generation network services,'' said Peter Kuhne, Vice President, Customer Operations of Nokia, ``Nokia's leading 3G solution enables operators to evolve to cost efficiently to offer the cutting edge in services and extend their reach beyond existing network limits.'' VIAG Interkom GmbH & Co, a BT Wireless subsidiary, covers the complete telecommunications needs of its mobile customers. Its own extensive network infrastructure supports a product range that includes innovative postpaid and prepaid products, as well as mobile data services based on GPRS. The company is also planning the deployment of the next generation of mobile services, UMTS. Nokia is the world leader in mobile communications. Backed by its experience, innovation, user-friendliness and secure solutions, the company has become the leading supplier of mobile phones and a leading supplier of mobile, fixed and IP networks. By adding mobility to the Internet Nokia creates new opportunities for companies and further enriches the daily lives of people. Nokia is a broadly held company with listings on six major exchanges.

To: Eric L who wrote (13501)	7/10/2001 2:33:19 PM
From: mightylakers	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

Eric, the power of statistics, and its manipulation. The fact that CDMA market share has declined in the last 2 years while GSM has grown, doesn't reflect it. Here are the numbers from Dec 99 to Mar 01. The reason I pick those two dats is because those are the only two time that both gsmworld and cdg have their time crossed and close two the term of two years. Global: CDMA 50.1(mil) to 90.4(mil) increase of 80% GSM 259(mil) to 503.4(mil) increase of 94% So GSM beat CDMA right? But look at the number a little closer. Asia GSM 69.6 mil to 155.4mil increase of 123% CDMA 28 mil to 39.6 mil increase of 41.5% So as you can see Asia is the killer for CDMA in the past two years. However GSM and CDMA are not in direct competition, with GSM enjoyed the huge success in China, CDMA suffered subsidy setback in Korea, and tough competition from NTT in Japan. So the number is no way a reflection of the head to head fight between the two. It is certainly not a reflection of who is the open standard(I will touch this later). Now let's look at in NA and SA, NA CDMA 16.5 to 33.843 105.1% GSM 6.1 to 11.6 90% SA CDMA 5.1 to 15.9 211.8 % GSM 0.71 to 2.4 338% The two combined in NA SA CDMA 21.6 to 49.7 130 % GSM 6.81 to 14 105% Granted GSM in SA is a short story therefore the number is hardly be used for comparison. So as you can see, in head to head competition between the two, namely NA(+SA), CDMA is still enjoying the bigger growth compare to GSM, of course there are also competition from TDMA sides, however that also applies to CDMA side so I will just offset that effect all together.

To: Eric L who wrote (13501)	7/10/2001 2:55:00 PM
From: mightylakers	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 34857

Eric, about open standards With proprietary (open) standards the proprietor develops the technology they think people want - hope they want. When development is at a certain stage, standards are developed. It works slightly differently with open committee based standards. Development is slower, time to market is longer. Keep in mind how the GSM is created. It was because of the need to bring all the fragmented markets together. So when they were working that things together, it was totally different from what we are seeing today in 3G. That is everybody brought their working solutions to the table and talked it over, both technology wise and political wise. That is they at least had something that was run and tested in the real world one way or another. Now look at what's happening in 3G, or say WCDMA. What they brought together is nothing more than a bunch of smart people bringing their theory, imagination, or fantasy sometimes. Throw in the fact that back then they still dreaming about find something to circumvent Q's IPR, which makes more wild imaginations instead of more realistic and optimized solutions. People are so worked up on stuffing in their own unproven solutions , they just stuffing this duck and who knows what will stick on the wall by the end. Ben have been giving very good updates of what is going on in the circus, I mean 3gpp. Give me one real example of things as a pure result of a standard by commitee without having a practical solution first. Look at ISO OSI 7 layers model, it's a thing of beauty right? Only in the class room my friend. The open standard is created to bring the different proprietary together. The open standard is created out of proprietary. The open standard is the end result, not the starting point. That is how the industry works.

To: Eric L who wrote (13501)	7/10/2001 3:12:31 PM
From: mightylakers	Respond to of 34857

Eric, about Koreans, Most certainly the Korean manufacturers are continuing to ramp their capabilities to supply GSM WCDMA infrastructure and subscriber equipment to the two Korean carriers that will build out in 2GHz, and export to the world Here is the Freetel interview about WCDMAhttp://www.teledotcom.com/article/TEL20010705S0032/1 As you can see, nobody sure how big and when will WCDMA be there. Don't get me wrong, I hope they can do that as big as they can because that will be a nice market for Q's multimode chips. But that's not the point, the point is I'm not sure how ramp up they are. Someone sees the pattern. That is why the 1st CDMA International Roaming Symposium is being held in Seoul, Korea, in October. Yup, the pattern of open standard, which I stated in my previous post. Very little notice? What was there to notice? No more than that from all those wonderful GPRS launches. How many of them? I lost my counts. I am rather confident that 1xEV-DV will be very widely deployed in the US If the cost and the benefit fits then I'm also confident with it. The question is when and how. BTW, were you also very confident with token ring 4 or 5 years ago? The point, or pattern, is that when I'm on the Nokia thread I have my Nokia hat on, not my Qualcomm hat. Do you understand my point? <g> Now I understand the point, which is called double standard. That is when you are slamming something, you can use the hat as the reason of not looking for anything in that things favor. Hey I do that all the time, it's nice to know we are in the same class<vbg>

To: Eric L who wrote (13501)	7/11/2001 6:42:30 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 34857

<As for portability Metricom showed promise before it folded, and when it folded it still did not provide sufficient coverage for me to consider it, or my company to consider it, at the price they were charging. It all boils down to the 3 C's of wireless. Coverage, capacity, and cost.> Eric, it seems you'll be buying Globaslstar in that case. They have the coverage. They have the capacity. Soon, you'll like their cost. [They are struggling now with my previous post = WackyWireless] Mq