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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Solon who wrote (7624)	7/11/2001 1:34:31 AM
From: Druss	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

Solon<<The drought abated during the close of the 13th and beginning of the 12th century ushering in a cooler, more humid climatic cycle. The nomadic groups began to settle down and repopulate the area as subsistence farming and sheep and cattle raising again became possible. New associations were formed developing their own ethnic and religious identity, but in most cases retaining vestiges of the all but forgotten pre-drought civilization. Among anthropologists this process is known as "retribalization." One of these groups was the Hebrews. They were essentially retribalized descendants of the old Canaanite empire retaining much of its culture and religious features. They were not descendants of ex-Egyptian slaves as the Old Testament Book of Genesis asserts.>> The last part of this paragraph has puzzled me for sometime. Egyptian records do indicate contact with a troublesome tribe the 'Hibaru'. However it was to the north in the Canaan area. They have nothing about all of the Biblical stuff in Egypt itself. I don't think all of the Biblical stuff can be rejected out of hand however. As a pure legend it has some oddities. The grand leader of the trek north was Egyptian, one Moses. The fact he was Egyptian was so unpalatable that a birth story was concocted for him. In this story he is actually Hebrew and set adrift on the Nile in a reed basket. He was then found by the Egyptian royal house and adopted as completely one of their own. Sigmund Freud's last work was written to postulate that the reed basket story was a Hebrew invention to 'clean up' Mose's tainted birth. The fact that the leader of the Hebrews leaving Egypt was actually an Egyptian tends to make some aspects of the story more credible to me rather than to assume it is all false. Here is what I suspect to be true (I state up front I am not a Biblical scholar and this is my interpretation of the evidence). A group of Hebrews were slaves, I doubt they were working on the pyramids. Pyramid building was done by all evidence by paid, skilled, work crews. Also even the biggest, Cheops according to Herodotus was finished in 20 years. Quite possibly no pyramid building at all was occurring in Egypt during the period of slavery. I think the Hebrews took the more sexy story of constructing pyramids over the more likely true one that they were grubbing in the mud making bricks and digging irrigation canals while the prettiest of their daughters were bed partners to any Egyptian of enough rank who wanted one of them. There were some plagues, that was a feature of early civilizations, particularly before sanitation. Possibly a plague or period of drought led to their release. "We can't feed them, take them to the border and kick them out." Moses an Egyptian for some reason cast his lot with them. He adopted their religion and this may have led to his joining with them and he may have been high enough rank in Egypt to swing their release. This was a small group of Hebrews and may have been captured by Egyptian troops at some point in the past and enslaved. The bulk of the Hebrew were still in the north and they likely rejoined them. I suspect their wonderful story became the story for all of them. (Egyptian records indicate that the 'Hibaru' were first seen in the North. Even after 40 years of wandering the Egyptians would have known right away this was the group of escaped slaves if the Biblical version were accurate. Instead they report a new and troublesome warlike tribe appearing in the area). I would be interested in other's opinion of what may have gone on here, or any other pertinent evidence. All the Best Druss