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To: wlheatmoon who wrote (2433)7/11/2001 10:18:32 PM
From: John Pitera  Respond to of 2850
 
Mike, the Oxford club has quite a marketing pitch, I think you should shell out the 149$ bucks and try it for a year
you can tell us if it's really that good -g-

But if you RSVP to this invitation right away online, we'll extend to you a special first year membership fee of only $149. Just think, for an investment of less then 41 cents a day, you will step into a world that most people would be happy to pay thousands for. You will gain access to the Club's coveted investment advice, learn how to save thousands on taxes, protect your wealth, ensure your privacy, and enjoy the camaraderie, prosperity, and safety of our unique fraternity.

All this for just 41¢ a day???

Admittedly, our membership dues are ridiculously low. However, we'd rather have your loyalty now so that after we prove the value of the Club to you (in terms of hard cash profits), you'll be inclined to contribute in other ways.


I've had some similar thoughts on the airline stocks. you know the unleaded gasoline futures fell 38% from
May 24th when the June futures hit a high of 117.5, and had fallen to .72 by June 26th. other distillate prices
have to be coming down as well.

U as an investment idea is certainly provocative, I'll see about doing some further checking up on it. It seems to
me that excessive debt is the problem but that's just off the top of my head.

thanks for mentioning it.....btw ... I've got nothing further on DSU.

John

EDIT; one little bit on U and UAL from Arne Alsin on 6-27-01

UAL (UAL:NYSE - news - commentary)

I tend to be a very placid, patient investor. You won't see me blink just because one of my stocks pops up or down 10% in a day or two. But UAL is causing me more than a little agitation for one simple reason: It is the single worst-managed company that I can think of.

Its merger with US Airways (U:NYSE - news - commentary) makes no sense at all. During good times, both UAL and US Airways earn comparable operating margins. Why, then, is UAL, with a $2 billion market cap, intent on paying more than $6 billion to acquire US Airways when US Airways has only half the revenue base?

The recently announced plan to take on Warren Buffett in the corporate jet time-share business is just as silly as the US Airways merger. It will encumber UAL with billions in new debt, while its ability to earn reasonable margins is very much in doubt, considering the high cost structure.

If UAL were a well-managed airline, like Continental (CAL:NYSE - news - commentary) or AMR (AMR:NYSE - news - commentary), comparable operating performance would yield a current stock price of roughly $70, or more than double the current quote. But with management that seems interested only in expansion while current operations are inefficient and ineptly managed, investors are advised to look elsewhere. Northwest Airlines (NWAC:Nasdaq - news - commentary), Delta (DAL:NYSE - news - commentary), AMR and Continental are all better alternatives in this sector.

I'm keeping UAL on the books for my Top-10 portfolio. I made the mistake of overreaching for this too-cheap stock, and I'm going to live with the consequences.



To: wlheatmoon who wrote (2433)7/11/2001 10:37:32 PM
From: John Pitera  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2850
 
A review of Q1's earnings for the airlines.... not too many ballons and party hats, but lower fuel costs can not hurt,
but it's the business traveller who creates the good margins and as we know corporations are still scaling back and
cutting costs. Not good on the Margin side for airlines.

It is a group to watch for a possible future turn......

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Airlines Suffer Through Tough Quarter, Struggle to Meet Estimates
By Chris Frankie
Editorial Assistant
4/19/01 3:36 PM ET

The airline industry has had a rough earnings season and an overall tough quarter, as the carriers generally reported disappointing numbers following profit warnings earlier in the period.

Most of the airlines escaped the ire of investors on Wednesday and cruised higher by the close of trading. Early in today's session, investors quickly dragged the carriers into negative territory before the sector rebounded by midday.

One of the few bright spots came on Thursday as Southwest Airlines (LUV:NYSE - news) met Wall Street's slightly lowered earnings estimate for the first quarter. Southwest basically weathered the storm and was one of the only major airlines to avoid a major profit warning in the quarter.

The discount airline posted net income of $121 million, or 15 cents a share. Thirteen analysts polled by Thomson Financial/First Call had been expecting the company to earn 15 cents, a projection that was lowered from 16 cents last week. Southwest earned $95.6 million, or 12 cents a share, in the year-ago period, before factoring in an accounting change.

"While Southwest is not completely immune to an economic downturn, we are uniquely positioned to do comparatively well as a result of our low-fare philosophy and low cost structure," the company said in a statement, adding that it expects to be "solidly profitable" in the second quarter even if the economy continues to slow.

However, Southwest wasn't typical of the sector, as labor problems and rising fuel costs decimated earnings for some of the airlines.

Yesterday, Delta Air Lines (DAL:NYSE - news) badly missed already lowered earnings estimates for the first quarter and blamed the shortcoming on the slowing economy and pilot labor issues. For the quarter, Delta lost $122 million, or $1.02 a share, excluding unusual items. Analysts were expecting a loss of 85 cents a share. In March, the company warned that it would miss the consensus estimate and lose between $85 million and $110 million, or 70 cents to 90 cents a share. Wall Street had expected the company to earn 46 cents for the quarter.

And the second quarter doesn't look good, as the company expects continued economic softness and public concern over a possible strike by Delta pilots, which could slice into the top line.

Goldman Sachs analyst Glenn Engel followed the report with a note on Thursday that slashed the firm's earnings estimate for Delta to 25 cents a share from $1.05 for the second quarter. That's a far cry from the $2.85 the carrier earned in the year-ago period. Engel said labor problems will "intensify" in the second quarter and indicated that the threat of labor troubles will drive customers to competitors.

He also dropped his earnings estimates for 2001 and 2002. Goldman did keep Delta on its U.S. recommended list and said the airline's stock has underperformed while maintaining many "sustainable advantages relative to the sector."

Sharing in the misery was UAL (UAL:NYSE - news), the parent company of United Airlines, which horribly missed the consensus first-quarter estimates with a loss of $305 million, or $5.82 a share. Analysts were expecting the company to lose $4.28 a share, after UAL said in March that it would report numbers "substantially lower" than the loss of $2.82 a share Wall Street was expecting at the time.

Revenue for the Elk Grove Township, Ill., company dropped to $4.42 billion from $4.55 billion in the year-ago. UAL projected a loss in the second quarter, citing lower revenue and higher labor and fuel costs. Should the company continue to have trouble propping up the top line, UAL could post a loss for the full year.

"The earnings numbers were not unexpected," said Robert Milmore, airline analyst at Arnhold & S. Bleichroeder. "Five out of the six that reported (Wednesday) had issued profit warnings." He said it's hard to tell what's in store for the airline industry in the upcoming quarters because a large portion of the business comes from corporate travel, which many companies are cutting back in an effort to trim their costs. "The majority of the profitability comes from the business side and that's where the weakness is," he said. However, he said leisure travel appears to be holding steady.

"We're closer to the bottom than we were three months ago, but we can go lower in terms of business travel" Milmore said. "It's a tough call."

Northwest Airlines (NWAC:Nasdaq - news) posted a first-quarter loss that was narrower than Wall Street's dramatically lowered estimate for the period, but still came to $123 million, or $1.47 a share, excluding nonrecurring items. Analysts were anticipating a loss of $1.64. In March, the airline warned that its loss would be wider than the consensus estimate of 59 cents a share. The company projected a loss of $1.55 to $1.80 a share, compared with a loss of 51 cents in the year-ago period.

US Airways Group (U:NYSE - news) reported a loss of $171 million, or $2.55 a share, while the Street was looking for a loss of $1.77. The carrier lost $1.72 in the same quarter a year ago. US Air had also already warned. Still, the company said operating revenue was up 6.8% to $2.2 billion.

AMR (AMR:NYSE - news), the parent company of American Airlines, reported a first quarter loss of $43 million, or a 28 cents a share, down sharply from earnings of $89 million, or 57 cents a share, in the first quarter of 2000. Analysts, on average, were expecting the company to lose 31 cents in the quarter. Operating revenue was $4.8 billion.



To: wlheatmoon who wrote (2433)7/11/2001 11:03:40 PM
From: John Pitera  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2850
 
One more piece on airlines and off course I endorse the value concept that Arne elucidates... too much capital
flowing to a sector creates overcapacity, bad business decisions and lets expenses run up as fiscal management
gets lax. When capital leaves a sector, some companies go out of business, merger, and reduce costs, all of
these enable profits to grow nicely when a rebound comes.

And since most industries have to deal with exogenous price cycles that impact their business, when these
price cycles become more favorable that gives a multiplier effect to the greater efficiencies and operating leverage
that has occurred during the bankrupcy, merger and cost cutting lean period. Airlines are a great example as
they have been hit by the much higher energy prices, but a return to 19$ a barrel will help pave the way to easy
cost comparisions with the year earlier period.

..........NWAC also,could be interesting.... but I'm being patient for the moment.

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The Turnaround Artist
Going With the Capital Flow
By Arne Alsin
Special to TheStreet.com
4/17/01 9:31 AM ET
URL: thestreet.com

If investors would simply step back from the noise that is Wall Street and watch capital flows, they could comfortably identify many profitable opportunities. Capital is in a never-ending search for big and easy profits. Once a sector has been flagged as yielding large, easy profits, capital pours in, sometimes in a torrent, until capacity can meet demand.

And each time a sector gets particularly hot, the flow of capital eventually exceeds the ability of the economy to absorb it. From telecommunications to networking to the Internet, capital flows in recent years have caused major dislocations in the real economy, principally from the buildup of excess capacity.

Profiting From the Capital Cycle
As an investor, it is the flip side of the capital cycle that interests me. I am attracted to sectors or industries in which there is capital flight. Assuming demand is growing, to the extent capital leaves a sector, the inevitable consequence is higher profitability for the surviving companies.

In the retail sector, I recommended J.C. Penney (JCP:NYSE) in a December column (it has since traded up 70%) and again in a March column. There is much evidence that capital flows currently favor J.C. Penney. The liquidation of Montgomery Ward's and bankruptcy of Bradlees, combined with store closures by many mall-based retailers, suggest capital has sobered and rationality has returned to the sector.

Another example of improving capital flows is in office-product retailers. Office Depot (ODP:NYSE) and key competitors have closed numerous stores and have introduced smaller store models. The capital equation is now tilting in favor of investors -- funds devoted to expansion in this sector are limited, while demand continues to increase. I first recommended Office Depot at the end of December and today at $9 it is up 30% and still a terrific idea. I expect it to trade over $20 in the next year or two.

Buy the Airlines
Because I am a value investor, almost all of the companies in my portfolio are struggling with a host of problems. Viewed from any vantage point, business at the airlines stinks. Rampant union squabbles, high fuel prices and problematic revenue caused by the slow economy all make for a tough backdrop. Almost every negative imaginable is hitting the sector simultaneously, but those negatives have been factored into the stock prices.

Capital flows could not get much more positive for investors in airlines. In the face of strong projected growth in demand for the rest of the decade, capacity growth is negligible. TWA is being folded into AMR (AMR:NYSE), the parent company of American Airlines, and perhaps US Airways (U:NYSE) will be gone soon as well. And whenever the airlines lose money, as they are doing now, capital retrenches and becomes more efficient as cost savings are pursued.

Northwest Airlines
I have already recommended United Airlines (UAL:NYSE) and Delta (DAL:NYSE) in prior columns. I am adding the world's fourth-largest airline, Northwest Airlines (NWAC:Nasdaq), to those recommendations. Northwest just booked its worst quarter in years. Operating leverage at Northwest, like most of the airline group, is pronounced. When times are bad, they are very bad, but when the cycle turns up, profit gains come fast and furious. In order to maximize gain, investors have to buy airlines, like Northwest, during down cycles when the stocks are heavily discounted.

Down, Down and Away?
Arne Alsin likes to buy the airlines when they're in tailspins. Case in point, Northwest.



You don't have to stretch the imagination to see the potential for a nice gain in Northwest Airlines. Solid growth in revenue, book value and cash flow over the last several years suggest that the current quote, at about $23.50, is a bargain. The stock has traded in the mid-$30s for six consecutive years, with a high of $65 in 1998. Pocket a 50% gain with Northwest as the stock returns to at least the mid-$30s by next year.

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Arne Alsin is the founder and principal of Alsin Capital Management, an Oregon-based investment advisor specializing in turnaround situations. At time of publication, Alsin or clients of ACM owned J.C. Penney, Office Depot, United Airlines, Delta Airlines and Northwest Airlines, although holdings can change at any time. Under no circumstances does the information in this column represent a recommendation to buy or sell stocks. Alsin appreciates your feedback and invites you to send it to arnealsin@home.com.

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