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To: Greg or e who wrote (18108)	7/13/2001 4:01:00 AM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 82486

So what have you have demonstrated besides your ignorance? A biased, closed mind, and a skewed view of "reality". What a perfect self-description of yourself greg! Louis Pasture would have had a good laugh about that. Freedom to creatively explore the nature of the world thru experimentation , using science as our Temple and our laboratory and Humanism as our religion , is what Pasteur stood for . What a better world it is , that we had such Godless men like him in it , huh? ambafrance-ca.org The Progress of Humanity "I beseech you to take interest in these sacred domains so expressively called laboratories. Ask that there be more and that they be adorned for these are the temples of the future, wealth and well-being. It is here that humanity will grow, strengthen and improve. Here, humanity will learn to read progress and individual harmony in the works of nature, while humanity's own works are all too often those of barbarism, fanaticism and destruction." -- ~Louis Pasteur You pretend to believe in a loving God, but all anyone hears coming out of your mouth is petty argument, a stagnant fundamentalist history and a ZEALOTS character assassination of anyone that questions your archaic , narrow beliefs. Have you ever traveled outside the city limits of Calgary at all ? Ever taken one college course in Biology Anthropology , Psycholgy , History or any of the sciences ? I thought not ...such a pity . But you like to play the wounded , hurt , and maligned "Christian" so often. Maybe you should really go back to the fundamentals, greg . Try your nearest junior college and open a book.

To: Greg or e who wrote (18108)	7/13/2001 5:30:40 AM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Louis Pasture would have had a good laugh about that. It is not Louis Pasture...but --->Louis Pasteur, greg I know you think of yourself as one of God's chosen Holy Sheep~herders , but .... ...and we also know you were just recently reading and delving deeply into his work on asymmetry differentiates the organic world from the mineral world ...and stereochemistry. ...but at least learn to spell his name correctly , before you go on to spread your myopic, anaerobic sheep-dip around. " Louis Pasture"----->ROFL You are really too much...you had better stick to throwing clay in your garage up there on the sheep-ranch <g>

To: Greg or e who wrote (18108)	7/13/2001 7:40:36 AM
From: thames_sider	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Did I say the Jews sprang from nothing? No. But I don't believe the myths they created about their past any more than I believe the myths written by the Greeks, about theirs... David never existed? Who knows. Possibly... but maybe not as quite as mighty a figure as the bible would indicate. Do other contemporary records from the large empires around the ME record him or Solomon? Do we see masses of coinage, great buildings (or the remains thereof), traces of great cities...? Surely the Zionist Jews in particular would have foudn good evidence by now to justify their claims to eretz Israel... they haven't. Maybe he was the leader of another small city-state in the area, a local lord. Finally, distinguish your semantics, please. To me, the universe has no 'aim' - there is no 'plan' for it, no 'will' directing its path. This does not mean that beginning and end cannot be determined: we can work out the mathematical constants, and are working on the 'how'. Nor does the Big Bang indicate generation from nothing. We don't know exactly how it happened... yet... we're down to the first millionth (or so) of a second. But I don't think anyone's seriously proposed that there was 'nothing' there before... how can you say 'before' about the beginning of space-time? There is no 'why' for the universe within science - that I know of. (And why you bring in Pasteur, I cannot guess... he's not known as a cosmologist). But I'm no expert, nor can I be bothered to do all the thinking for you... since even the US education system has plainly failed to bring you out of the 5th century, since science, technology and reason have so plainly passed you by, since you jeer and deride the very means and inventors who enable you to communicate here, I see no reason to bother with you any longer. Go, reject science and the fruits of human endeavour. Go, live by the bible. And go and die early and miserable in ignorant, primitive squalor.