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To: Srexley who wrote (160534)	7/13/2001 3:43:55 PM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769667

without self image, a person is an animal. I say a person is an animal either way. I was trying to use some fairly ordinary terms to describe my concepts. I was trying to tie together concepts of soul, and "What a piece of work is man", and dreams in the 1st person, and other things that appear uniquely human with the word person. The word animal I was using for a perhaps clever, but ultimately instinct driven behavior. Only Homo-sapien, chimps, orangutangs, and gorillas have this quality of self awareness and that was the distinction I was looking for. If a person has no self image, should we be able to "abort" them? (And never had a self image) And yes this is my premise. It is up to the women who has a self-image and a plan for the future to decide whether to continue to bring the pregnancy to the point that the baby may become self aware. The self awareness does not happen for a year or two after birth but it's not easy to pinpoint exactly when it occurs, so the conclusion is that the limit on abortion should be at the time of birth since it's a fairly easily defined time early enough to ensure that the infant has not matured into a self aware being. TP