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To: The Street who wrote (4877)7/14/2001 8:52:46 AM
From: jttmab  Respond to of 93284
 
Mailler was not about the 2nd--

I'm not familiar with the Mailler decision; perhaps you're right. I was referring to the Miller decision.

The Court cannot take judicial notice that a shotgun having a barrel less than 18 inches long has today any reasonable relation to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, and therefore cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees to the citizen the right to keep and bear such a weapon.....

So you're saying that the words Second Amendment are not related to the Second Amendment.

Thanks. You certainly blew my argument out of the water. I had thought that the words Second Amendment related to the Second Amendment; I'm clear now.

jttmab



To: The Street who wrote (4877)7/14/2001 9:10:42 AM
From: jttmab  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
I like to handle these complex issues in separate posts... helps keep the topics separate....

it was about a shotgun being military or not.

What burning Constitutional issue was brought before the Court that required them to consider whether a shotgun was military or not?

jttmab



To: The Street who wrote (4877)7/14/2001 9:15:21 AM
From: jttmab  Respond to of 93284
 
Re: Mailler was not about the 2nd-- the guy was dead

Whether the dude is dead doesn't make any differece other than he can't claim a victory or a defeat.

You could look at the recent case in Texas [death penalty] where the Federal Court has agreed to hear the case, despite the fact that the execution took place. The dude is dead. The Texas attorney general's office noted that it is unusual that the court wishes to hear the case; but the parties agree that the Court is saying that there are Constitutional questions involved that override the trivial detail that the person is already worm bait.

jttmab



To: The Street who wrote (4877)7/14/2001 9:21:31 AM
From: jttmab  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
If you would , then the overturning of parts of Brady would trump Miller-- read that decision and Thomas says the 2nd is an individual right in a footnote.

My recollection on the Brady case was that the challenge was not based on the 2nd amendement, i.e., there were other constitutional issue[s] that were brought before the Court. For some reason, unknown to me, the NRA did not think it [the Brady Bill] was a 2nd amendment issue or they didn't believe that they had a strong case.

In the case of US vs. Miller the violated "rights" of the second were directly put to the Court. Note specifically that the plaintiff cites the 2nd amendment.

jttmab



To: The Street who wrote (4877)7/14/2001 9:25:51 AM
From: jttmab  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 93284
 
You might want to do a little research before I blow you
out of the water...


Thanks for the heads up. I think I'm ready now. Start whenever.

jttmab