To: Thomas M. who wrote (2358 ) 7/14/2001 1:39:54 PM From: Ilaine Respond to of 23908 Yawn. This is what I said: "A Protestant or Catholic Biblical professor who is on the tenured faculty of a mainstream university here in the US." You're conveniently omitting the important parts = Protestant or Catholic; Biblical professor; tenured faculty; mainstream university; here in the US. In other words, the whole message. "Protestant or Catholic" means NOT Muslim, NOT Jewish, NOT atheist, nor a member of any other religion - because the alleged slanders are against Christians, so if a Christian Bible scholar acknowledges them, it would be, in my opinion, more credible. In my experience, Christian Bible scholars are very respectful of Jews and would deal with the alleged slanders in a respectful manner - light, not heat. "Biblical professor" means someone who has devoted their life to the study of religion, not someone who did it as a hobby. "Tenured faculty" means someone who has published in peer-reviewed journals, and has demonstrated sufficient intelligence, insight, reliability and dignity to be awarded tenure. Further, after getting tenure, professors have much more freedom to say things that are unpopular because it's hard to fire them. "Mainstream university" means it's not "Joe's Garage and Bible College;" not some dinky little imitation university run by nut cases and weirdos. "Here in the US" means I have sufficient frame of reference to be able to gauge the status of the institution. I went to college for 14 years part-time and full-time - have three degrees, BA, JD, LLM - based on my experience with untenured faculty and adjunct faculty, I'd never say that "being a professor is a prime qualification for intelligence or scholarship."-g- Nor would I give credence to the scholarship of someone working outside of his area of expertise - not merely on the basis of being a professor. For example, I'm qualified to teach law, but not math or chemistry. I am a Christian, and can read the Bible, but I'd never try to pass myself off as a Biblical scholar based on those thin credentials. Shahak could read Hebrew, and may have been a Jew, but he was out of his area of expertise. Not that being IN your area of expertise makes you automatically right. That's silly, too. ________________________ I don't doubt that some Jews hate Christians, nor do I doubt that in the past, a Jew wrote something anti-Christian. To claim that this is mainstream Jewish religion is too far a stretch. Similarly, in the past, otherwise respectable Christians said, and wrote, anti-Semitic things, e.g., Martin Luther was virulently anti-Semitic. But that's not the basis of the Lutheran church, it's not even a precept.