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To: Lane3 who wrote (803)	7/15/2001 11:26:56 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1857

I think the problem Rambi has is the dog got so much attention. Children get their brains bashed out by their parents every week, it's common. Which is probably why it isn't on the front page every day- you have to kill a BUNCH of kids to get national coverage- or you can throw a dog into traffic. I agree with Rambi. There are murderers who will not serve the time that guy is serving. We EAT animals in this country. We eviscerate them, frequently while they are still alive, and then we rip their carcasses apart. Hard to get exercised about a dog when we kill thousands and thousand of animals all the time. The inconsistency of justice in this country has never been better illustrated than in this case. If you want to do something heinous, do it in an old fashioned way that won't get noticed. Don't do anything unusual the media can get hold of or you will become a symbol, and the justice you receive will be out of all proportion to your crimes.

To: Lane3 who wrote (803)	7/15/2001 1:49:03 PM
From: Rambi	Respond to of 1857

I don't see it as an either-or problem (children or animals) so much as a strange inconsistency in our level of outrage. In fact, if anything, to me it seems that we may have a greater tolerance for brutality and rage than earlier and frequently make excuses for it. I don't accept his actions at all and now that I read he committed a previous similar act, I think that it is more understandable why the judge thought "he was a danger to society". His line is drawn now at humans; but if there were no dog to throw, would he throw a person? (I saw that he claimed the dog had bit him-- though why his arm was in the car to get bit stretches the credibility of that claim) I love animals. I appreciate their social value as companions and comforters. But the personification of animals is a strange phenomenon- painted doggie toenails, ribbons in hair, gourmet foods. There is a certain displacement, even decadence, about it -- but that is only a very personal reaction. Dogs certainly should have a place in the boat, but on the floor rather than in the captain;s chair-- and please, not wearing a little sailor hat. :)