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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (28)	7/15/2001 11:20:13 PM
From: Rolla Coasta	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 41

Now if your saying that that Chinese people don't have the resolve or ability of doing something that the Japanese and Taiwanese have been able to accomplish, then I guess they are pretty backward. A political climate in an island is quite different from that in a large continent with foreign threats all over the place. Mainlanders have enough resources and don't need to expand and conquer lands. They'd rather be protectionists against unknown foreign conquerers. How is that any different than now? Are you telling me that with complete and utter control over the Chinese economy that corruption and pay-offs aren't taking place? Let's be real. Corruption exists everywhere. It is not easy to get everyone a chance to gain access to the money pool. And why has Chinese intelligence outfits tried to bribe US politicians? To gain access. US could do the same if China were a democratic country. You know the elitists see this danger. an Island that has more of a history with the Portugese, than with the Han Chinese You are wrong. Taiwanese are Han too. Most older generations were even born in mainland China. The founding fathers of KMT for Taiwan were all Han. So, therefore, the mainland and Taiwan should be viewed as China. But cross the line and oppose the "unchosen few" and you suddenly find you have no rights. For the mainlanders, they seldom flat-out oppose against those with power, but rather work with the few elitists by lobbying. In the Chinese political system, one would rise up in power by lobbying and with consensus agreement among the elitists. Moreover, since the current leaders were former Shanghai mayors, I think some ordinary Chinese could rise up in power too, once they are proved they possess managing skills and knowledge in economy. The elitists just don't like to see any heroism by someone who want to move the crowd and rise up in power thru heroic acts without those skills and knowledge. And being a patriot is not the same as possessing nationalistic extremism to the detriment of surrounding nations You can view the mainland Chinese as patriots too. There is a long history of the communists invading their neighbors. Russian, India, Vietnam, Tibet, S. Korea... Like I've said, Chinese elitists call themselves communists. But how could they open their markets and let foreign investment to come in and still be communists ??... just doesn't make sense. Even though the leader hugged Castro like long-time missing brothers, the moving scene was the result of Chinese extreme brilliant piece of acting. You know Castro was fooled by it, because they are capitalists now. I think Chinese should get some acting Oscars. When's the last time a western nation invaded China? At least 100 years ago. oh ... nobody in China would count out this possiblilty. For that matter, when's the last time Taiwan threatened to attack the mainland? what last time ? It is the future world order that can make you and me worried ... as if someone didn't like the world order after WWII. why should a non-democratic nation like China enjoy the benefit of hosting an international sporting competition founded by the world's first democracy, Greece?? Well, most countries had approved it. It was a democratic process. I really have no comment on whether anyone should host or not, but I think it will make the Olympics rather interesting to watch ... I guess. Q