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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Win Smith who wrote (18459)	7/17/2001 6:17:49 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

"Leaving aside the ever popular if logically dubious "lots of people believe in God" existence "proof", your arithmetic has some problems". The discussion I was involved in had to do with the self evidence of the existence of a soul and awareness of right and wrong in principles of living. Lots of people accept the notion of a soul while being uncertain about God. Arithmetic: Noted.

To: Win Smith who wrote (18459)	7/18/2001 9:07:55 AM
From: thames_sider	Respond to of 82486

Well, perhaps if we go for Buddhist-style reincarnation, there were an awful lot of unicellular creatures - still are. One soul each? Mind, they didn't get much scope for improving their lot for a long while... about 3.5 billion years... LOL. I guess this is a slight flaw... did souls only come to exist with humans, or before (given that you can be reincarnated at a lower level)? If so, at what level of evolution? And did a bad dinosaur have to come back as an early lemur, or was that a step up...? As for the belief 'proof', well, firstly I think we've established that untestable beliefs cannot be proved (or indeed disproved) by scientific methods or real-world logic. Secondly, how many people before Newton 'believed' in gravity? How many believed the world was flat with its center in Eden? (and was it circular or square... the Bible implies the latter). Belief in something does not make it real to the universe...