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To: Ilaine who wrote (5956)	7/17/2001 7:51:24 PM
From: carranza2	Respond to of 74559

I have never heard or read anywhere that, as you stated, Atahualpa's father ever told him that his kingdom was about to be destroyed. There was an oracle, astrologer or soothsayer who made the prediction. Atahualpa had him killed. The "white men are going to come" myth pre-existed Atahualpa by many centuries. I could be wrong. Haven't looked at this stuff in a long time. And my Prescott books are gathering dust. The Inca "bearded ones" myth is essentially the same as the Quetzacoatlian one. It seemed that you were referring to the Aztecs and their neighbors, in which case, again, I'm also fairly sure no Aztec king's father foretold that the white men were about to destroy a son's kingdom. Quetzalcoatl was seen as a benevolent figure. I don't think Moctezuma II, the Aztec king in power when Cortez landed, ever heard that from his father. By the time Cuauhtemoc rose to become the last Aztec king, the war with the Spaniards was raging. I don't recall that the received any warnings from anyone. He didn't need them. In any event, the point that you made about the "clean getaway" the Spaniards made is utterly wrong. It was a getaway, but it was hardly a clean one. They paid dearly for the gold they stole. It was no walk in the park, as you apparently suggest. La Noche Triste was only one of their travails.