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To: Lane3 who wrote (18588)	7/18/2001 9:29:25 AM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 82486

Kind of goofy. I am opposed to selective reduction, but nothing can be done about it without the reversal of Roe v Wade. Late term abortions and stem cell research are immediately addressable issues........

To: Lane3 who wrote (18588)	7/18/2001 11:49:04 AM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I think many pro-life people aren't really aware of it, and it is in any case still a lot less common then other reasons for abortion. Those who do know about it and are against abortion in general would seem to obviously be against it as well. If you want to make abortion illegal, obviously selective reduction would be illegal if you the law followed your ideas. But if you are looking for someone who is outraged or disgusted you can count me as one. In a somewhat related but different issue - Stem Cell Debate in House Has Two Faces, Both Young nytimes.com Tim

To: Lane3 who wrote (18588)	7/19/2001 11:20:47 PM
From: gao seng	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Maybe they should just outlaw fertility treatments? And vasectomies, etc. are elective procedures. They often fail. My dad had one (after he had three kids, including me), but it didn't work. Thursday, 19 July 2001 15:03 (ET) Postpartum depression blamed for suicide CHICAGO, July 19 (UPI) -- The quadruplets born to Aracely Erives last week were thriving Thursday in the neonatal intensive care unit at Loyola University Medical Center but the tiny babies never will know their mother. Erives' body was pulled from Lake Michigan, the apparent victim of postpartum depression -- the fourth woman to commit suicide in Chicago as a result of the condition in recent weeks. Erives, 27, was last seen outside her South Side home Tuesday, promising her husband she would return in an hour. Her body was found 10 feet offshore in about eight feet of water after a friend spotted her 1991 burgundy Nissan parked near the Adler Planetarium and called police. Friends said Erives desperately wanted children and was having trouble conceiving. Hospital officials would not say whether she took fertility drugs to conceive the three boys and girl, who were reported in good condition. Erives' husband, Jesus Sandoval, told police his wife had been suffering from postpartum depression since she had delivered July 12. She had been released from the hospital, where she had been since May 22, Sunday. Police said Erives' body had no obvious injuries and there was no evidence of foul play in her car. She left no suicide note, however. Neighbors said Erives expressed nervousness over caring for so many babies when she found out she was carrying quadruplets. Family members told police Erives became depressed at the end of her first trimester. "She could not cry. She could not laugh," a police report said. "She would rather have cancer than this disease." Police said Erives became upset Sunday when her family refused to let her leave her home, screaming she would rather die "than live like a caged animal." Susan Feingold, a Highland Park clinical psychologist, said there are indications that taking fertility drugs can heighten symptoms of depression. "Extra hormones add to the postpartum depression risk factor," she told the Chicago Tribune. -- Copyright 2001 by United Press International. All rights reserved. -- vny.com