To: Alphapenguin who wrote (12689 ) 7/19/2001 2:57:32 AM From: Theophile Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 15615 Opus, I wanted to ask you if insiders had sold any further, since the last time (the collar episode). Thanks for a response. Now, as for the RB post about which you have no comment; I do have some questions there. First I like to set the stage by pointing out how many enemies Winnick has. Not just jealous-Nellies like Cramer, but actual enemies. They are most upset, still, that Milken destroyed their monopoly on the financial markets via a new device known as Junk Bonds, in order to circumvent the Moody's and Standard//Poor's monopoly on credit. Really, really bad people to cross, those folks. Now, for the facts as related; I can only go from memory so please contribute, anyone, to corrections so we (I) can lay this to rest and cite this post in the future for any further rehash of Winnick's quite successful past. Somebody obviously thinks he is trustworthy, besides some of us. I have been wrong on such before, so contribute to the common knowledge here.may have narrowly escaped being indicted ... this looks like innuendo to me. Just facts is all I want in my newsies.Milken's fraudulant bond trading Was it actually fraudulant bond trading for which he was convicted? I seem to recollect it was something else more clever, having to do with parking money between his firm and the Russian immigrant arbiteur who had to entrap somebody to reduce his prison time, and Milken, being the most-hated guy on W.Street, was the perfect trophy to get his sentence reduced...actually, the SEC committed some pretty big fraudulent trades themselves by allowing the Russian to dump shares prior to publishing the expose for the entire shebang. So much for fraudulent...it depends upon who is perpetrating the action, as to whether or not it is fraudulent, eh?Winnick shorted shares in his own company I was under the impression that the deal was structured such that Winnick could only profit if the shares went up, other than avoiding the loss if the shares went down. Of course, this does *not* mean his buddies, whoever they were that performed the collar, did not profit. Then again, did these shares actually get put? If they had, how would we know it?some speculate that having cashed in on Global Crossing thrice (on the IPO, by cashing out at the peak, and with the collar) Now, did Winnick sell shares at the IPO? How many? I do not recollect Winnick "cashing out" anything at the peak. A very, very few shares were sold at ~$33...very, very few of his own. Again, the collar? This story is a ragging of speculation and misinformation. Was it written by the same author who wrote for the WSUrinal about the $14 or $15B of debt GX supposedly had? If the Urinal publishes some sort of false info such as that, I believe other rags can publish such untruths as well. Structuring the episode of attempting to trash the sector as best as possible for those two weeks, a concerted effort by the media was all too obvious. This is simply a replay, judging by the date of the article posted on the referenced post to this one. The rest of the article is not worth a comment. Thanks for the input. It is doubtful I will respond again to the S.O.S. by juvenile wannabe traders trying to milk the public-opinion game, who publish such tripe. Martin Thomas