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To: Tony Viola who wrote (139648)	7/19/2001 9:30:42 AM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Re: One company will come out with better products and/or processes for a while, then the other Good point. But one observation I've made that gets consistently ignored is that the overall CPU market is becoming one that is less willing to pay for high volumes of expensive parts, (the $200 & up chips that are so helpful to ASPs) and that AMD, with its lower cost corporate structure, is better positioned to thrive in such a market.

To: Tony Viola who wrote (139648)	7/19/2001 9:45:22 AM
From: pgerassi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Dear Tony: Did you ever take the Compaq Alphaserver server configurator and price guide computation PC software and configure a server? You would notice that they include such things as racks, line printers, tape drives, communication servers, ethernet switches, power supplies, cabling, controllers, etc. All the things you forget to include in such server costs! It includes even outside racks filled with fibre channel drives, consoles, CRT and LCD screens, and printing consoles (like LA-120 types still in use today). Even allows the generation of 1 CPU servers with a maximum of 32 in that type. Many have stated here and elsewhere that typically these 4 way and 8 way boxes ship with only one or two CPUs. Oh and you talk that if Compaq sells something for $X, the vendor gets all of it when it is clear that the vendor receives far less than 100%. A simple thing like a memory upgrade (nearly industry standard modules) of 1GB costing $11,000. Yes their vendor gets 50 times the current going rate. Not bloody likely! Tony, you should eat what you are shoveling at others. It isn't pleasant. Pete