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To: Paul Engel who wrote (139654)	7/19/2001 2:10:03 AM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Hmmmmmmm...maybe that's why IBM's Lightning 486 and PowerPC programs have been less than successful !! Yes, remember how the computer world cowered at the thought of the combined genius of IBM, Moto and Apple designing the PPC? Obviously no one else stood a chance. What a turd that turned out to be. We need to get over the same notion about IBM's manufacturing ability. It is equivalent to a typical ASIC house. Just how bad are their yields? I'm not at liberty to provide details but based on yields and DPM, Intel would have shut down their fab until the problem was identified and corrected. IBM doesn't even know there's a problem and maybe for their baseline there isn't. You can disguise the answer with a number between 0 and 100 ! It wouldn't mean much because as you know, it's somewhat of a logarithmic scale based on die size and defect density. EP

To: Paul Engel who wrote (139654)	7/19/2001 7:28:36 AM
From: John A. Stoops	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Paul, Article in Eweek Labs: AMD Athlon chip set rivals Intel's technology Jason Brooks, eWEEK Labs July 11, 2001 3:15 PM ET With the release last month of the Athlon MP processor and accompanying 760 MP chip set, Advanced Micro Devices Inc. has positioned itself to challenge Intel Corp. in the X86-based server and workstation market. However, although eWeek Labs' tests indicate that the Athlon MP is a technologically able rival to Intel's newest Pentium 4-based Xeon processors, AMD now faces perhaps as great a challenge in convincing workstation and server players such as Compaq Computer Corp., Dell Computer Corp. and IBM to build systems around the Athlon MP processors. The service contracts and application vendor relationships that workstation makers provide are prized almost as highly as the hardware that drives the systems, and an Athlon MP-based workstation from a major OEM would allow AMD to better compete with Intel in the enterprise space. For our tests, we looked at the Poly ServerStation 890 from Polywell Computers Inc. Built around the 760 MP chip set, the ServerStation 890 is the first workstation we've seen that supports Athlon MP processors in dual-chip configurations. The ServerStation 890 that we tested shipped with two Athlon MP processors, each of which ran at 1.2GHz. The chip is also available in a 1GHz version. The test system was outfitted with a 36GB Ultra-160 ATA 10,000-rpm hard drive, an NVidia Corp. GeForce 3 graphics card and Windows 2000 Service Pack 1. The system also featured 512MB of double-data-rate SDRAM (synchronous dynamic RAM), which, as its name suggests, delivers up to twice the data rate of standard SDRAM by supporting data transfer on both edges of each clock cycle. As configured, the ServerStation was priced at $3,750, compared with $5,624 for the similarly configured, dual-1.7GHz Xeon processor-based Dell Precision 530 that we reviewed in May. Difference is in the cards In tests with standard performance Evaluation Corp.'s APC Pro/Engineer 2000i2 benchmark, which gauges workstation performance running Pro/E mechanical CAD software, the ServerStation turned in a composite score of 2.41—compared with a 3.70 score for the Precision 530. However, the Dell box we tested shipped with a high-end Wildcat II 5110 graphics card from 3D Labs Inc., which was much better suited for CAD tasks than the GeForce 3 card in the ServerStation. For a better comparison, we swapped a GeForce 3 card into the Precision 530, with which the workstation scored 2.61 on the Pro/E benchmark—a mark more closely in line with the ServerStation's 2.41. In tests using Ziff Davis Media Inc.'s Content Creation Winstone 2001 benchmark, which tests performance on applications such as Adobe Systems Inc.'s Premiere 5.1 and Macromedia Inc.'s Director 8.0, the ServerStation scored 74.2, topping the 69.5 that the Precision 530 system with the GeForce 3 graphics card scored. The ServerStation's higher Content Creation Winstone score is likely due in part to the faster SCSI hard drive with which the system ships (compared with the EIDE drive in the Precision 530). Technical Analyst Jason Brooks can be reached at jason_brooks@ziffdavis.com.