Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Non-Tech : Bill Wexler's Dog Pound -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Bill Wexler who wrote (8142)	7/21/2001 9:11:30 AM
From: Hank	Respond to of 10293

Yes, and I hear his secret lab is actually in his back yard and is made entirely out of tin foil!

To: Bill Wexler who wrote (8142)	7/22/2001 2:04:42 PM
From: Mike M	Respond to of 10293

Yes, and don't forget those COVD zealots...? They certainly know a good thing when they see it...

To: Bill Wexler who wrote (8142)	7/22/2001 10:58:42 PM
From: BinkY2K	Respond to of 10293

Bill, I could see shorting this one alongside you. I have never shorted a stock before but if this company moves up enough on this kind of fluff, who knows. It is one thing when a Physicist claims such discoveries but I am struck by it being a medical doctor. Yea, right. Clearly this is his specialty. There actually are some interesting testable aspects to what they say but I have to wonder how many of the things they claim to have done was ever verified by independent skeptics like myself. Maybe I should take a drive to Cranbury and after lunch at the Cranbury Inn check them out. Reminds me of the good old Utah cold fusion approach. When i visited a year later, nobody seemed to want to talk about it or discuss the individuals that had somehow fooled themselves and then many others. Of course, I do think there are theoretical ways to get power from the weirdest places, including the vacuum. Not quite perpetual motion machines, though. The edges of physics remain a bit ragged. Of course, I agree with you that REFR investors are at a much higher level with a working technology. Please stay synchronized with your fellow shorts who now admit it works and will be produced but now quibble that not many will be sold. There really is no comparison with GUMM or this latest story. If you were not already short, I suggest that at some point you should look at the realities, not the distant past and how you can warp it. Friday was a delicate hint of what can happen to shorts that pick the wrong stock and then push too far. I see high probabilities of a serious squeeze within weeks but I see almost certainty that real sales will justify even higher prices. Of course, if these blacklightpower fellows are correct, they might accidentally start a chain reaction where all hydrogen in the universe will implode into this new state and life as we know it will be gone. That would make our discussion of what stocks are real and frauds moot.

To: Bill Wexler who wrote (8142)	7/23/2001 12:14:06 AM
From: BDR	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10293

The Cold Fusion crowd think very highly of Dr. Mill. The American Physical Society does not hold him in quite such high regard: aps.org New Patents---Pre-Shrunk Hydrogen and Advanced Sub-Carrier Modulation In 1991, Randy Mill (MD, Harvard, 1986) showed, in his "Unified Theory", that cold fusion wasn’t actual fusion, but was just a process that puts hydrogen atoms into an energy state which is below the ground state. These tiny atoms he called "hydrinos", and hydrino production will obvious release a great deal of energy. His company, BlackLight Power, raised a few million dollars from some utility companies. He refers to the discovery of hydrinos as "the most important discovery of all time…up there with fire". In February, the company was awarded a patent for a chemical means of producing hydrinos. This outdid the recent patent awarded in November to Media Fusion for "Advanced Sub-Carrier Modulation", which transmits data over ordinary power lines with a 10 GHz bandwidth. They claim that magnetic fields surrounding the conductor can act as a waveguide. After the fiasco last April in which a patent examiner organized a conference on "Free Energy" (see the July issue of this newsletter), one would hope that the patent office would have learned…. aps.org HYDRINOS: HONEY, I SHRUNK THE HYDROGEN! BlackLight Power is relocating to the Princeton, NJ area, having purchased a building for $2M where RCA once built satellites (WN 8 Jan 99). Randall Mills, who says he has a technique for getting hydrogen into a state below the ground state, explained to the Princeton Packet that "It's the most important discovery of all time...up there with fire." Back when BLP was HydroCatalysis, Mills sold one of his cells to NASA. I guess they're still testing it. Eric Krieg is offering $10,000 for proof of a free energy claim: phact.org That site has many links on the subject including one to an interesting article in the Village Voice: villagevoice.com