To: Alan Whirlwind who wrote (11643 ) 7/21/2001 8:02:01 PM From: d:oug Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 81396 Alan, Long articles like the one just given without a short summary upfront tend to be pushed onto a stack that matters not if its a first-in-first-out type pipe, or an old fashioned type where an opening to receive pushes has later done pop'es, same place. Most fool themselves by Save(ing) the environment, like recording the who what where when etc onto a type of list, and later going or getting back that list and having all that stuff re-appear as if one could go back into time like a time-machine and live over again while bring back recorded history of the future, if needed. Bottom line w/ eXtra is that this post is off the off topic of the number 19 as discussed off topic here. Being that it may or not fit into what may or not be or be taken seriously, i will add my rounded off like that Y2K bug'ie that was sucessfully stepped on even thought oldie49error spoken as if it would remain like a roach as the only living left. 19 aka 1 + 9 = 0 Now it depends of your frame of reference, as where do you start counting, as in do you start from zero or one, as in in the beginning is a reference to what just before the Big Bang when there was nothing or at the Big Bang when there was only one the one thing that Bang'ed so do you start with zero the place that can not exist since nothing existed or do you start with one the place where everything came from? do you count to ten or do you represent a decimal counting system, of ten is it 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 or 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 the above 1 through 10 has not logic if one is an alien from outter space receiving the math symbols spoken as a language saying "Hello" guess it depends what one means with a one as in one more or next one dimensional of a line increminted with a jump not allowed since not possible in one dimension so, 19 is the 1 and the 9 without the 0 the start meaning "Who left the dog out!" or did someone forget to bring the zero as in who has the nothing or might it be there the nothing unseened, but felt but then if so, can it be used this unseened but felt or has a nothing qualities and characteristics or has nothing no or zero character can one be a nothing can one be a zero yes, but only in thoughts as a human being's existance as 1 cannot at same time be a 0 A = A so the man A.'s logic says A != B but then the man P.'s logic allows it ak or what is a k Whirlwind at Jul 21, 2001 1:59 PM Actually, I'm rather partial to the number 19. It is a good friend of mine's lucky number. Just the other day at a church social, she won a cake with the number 9. The winner before her held number 1.