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To: Dan3 who wrote (48600)	7/22/2001 12:47:17 AM
From: kash johal	Respond to of 275872

Dan3, Without getting into Intel - who's numbers are way too complex to figure out. AMD is clearly taking a big gamble. Not that they have too much choice. In the retail market - that AMD currently plays in the FACTS are clear. A small portion (high Mhz) has almost all the profit. A large portion is a lossleader or break even at best. AMD needs to capture a fair share of performance segment to breakeven or make a decent profit. The ABOVE situation is pretty much undisputed. The differing opinon on is wether a 1.4-1.6Ghz Athlon when marekted against a 1.6-2Ghz PIV is a winner or not for Q3/Q4. I think you know what i think. regards, Kash

To: Dan3 who wrote (48600)	7/22/2001 9:40:02 AM
From: andreas_wonisch	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Dan, Re: [AMD ASPs at $50] Because in that scenario Intel is selling 25M units/qtr at an ASP of $100. Any data to back that up? In Q2 AMD's ASPs plummeted from $91 to $76 (data from amd.com, rounded up). That's an ASP decline of 16%. In the same quarter Intel's ASPs only went down by about 6% (processor revenue was flat, shipments were up 6%). So it looks like Intel is able to hold up ASPs much better than AMD in a price war situation. And that's not too surprising: They sell a) tons of overpriced PIIIs in the business market and b) they have a steep price premium on their products that AMD can't match. Andreas

To: Dan3 who wrote (48600)	7/22/2001 5:02:34 PM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 275872

BEA Systems ports WebLOGIC to Intel ITanium and XEON Processors. No mention of a Hamster port !! biz.yahoo.com Sunday July 22, 3:00 pm Eastern Time BEA, Intel in pact to offer WebLogic on new chips By Ilaina Jonas NEW YORK, July 22 (Reuters) - Intel Corp. (NasdaqNM:INTC - news) and BEA Systems Inc.(NasdaqNM:BEAS - news) on Sunday said they have formed an alliance to enable BEA's WebLogic software to operate at peak efficiency on a new microprocessor the world' No. 1 chip maker is banking will extend its PC dominance into the high-end server market. ADVERTISEMENT BEA's WebLogic, known as application server software, provides a foundation on which programmers can build applications, such as those used for electronic commerce. WebLogic, operates on top of major operating systems, including Unix, Linux, Microsoft Corp.'s (NasdaqNM:MSFT - news) Windows and Sun Microsystems Inc.'s Solaris. Historically, programmers have used Intel-based personal computers and low-end servers to build programs that were subsequently deployed on high-end servers with the power to process huge numbers of transactions in seconds and built by Sun and International Business Machines Corp.(NYSE:IBM - news), among others. ``The issue is almost 100 percent of development of applications running on WebLogic was done on Intel and less that 5 percent of the actual deployment,'' Bill Coleman, chief executive of San Jose, California-based BEA, told Reuters. Intel has long dominated the world of microprocessors -- the engine of personal computers -- with its chips in more than a half a billion PCs world-wide. But Intel wanted to move into the market for servers, the computers that are at the heart of the systems companies use to conduct business. First it rolled out its Xeon processors and is about to go into the very high end of server processors with its Itanium processors. Ten years and an estimated $2 billion later, Santa Clara, California-based Intel is releasing it's new Itanium processor, the company's first chip to use its new IA-64 architecture, which will process data in chunks of 64 bits, rather than the 32 bits that chips like Intel's Pentium III and Xeon handle. With the Itanium, Intel hopes to extend its dominance from the PC to the high-end server market, taking on Sun and other server makers that use their own proprietary chip architecture. Intel is betting the new chip will allow companies to deploy their applications on Intel-based servers and run them more cheaply because of the company's ability to mass market Itanium chips and sell them at lower prices. ``The fact that we can pump out millions and millions of these processors a day, and the fact that these processors are now in the performance range of what you've seen in the traditional proprietary servers, you now get comparable performance for a third or less the price,'' Deborah Conrad, vice president and general manager of Intel solutions market development" Between the pricing and the performance, BEA and Intel hope to expand the market outside of the usual top 1,000 richest companies in the world that have been able to afford such computing power. For BEA the deal means its WebLogic products will operate very competitively on the Intel architecture as the chip giant moves into the mainstream business market and allow BEA to retain its lead in the application server market. ``The big deal about this is we both get to vastly expand our total available market,'' Coleman said. Under the alliance, the two companies will establish a technology lab used to validate and document the WebLogic's performance and its ability to work efficiently as demand on the server grows. Intel and BEA also will jointly train and provide support materials to their direct sales organizations and through companies that sell each of their products. They also will work to develop service offerings. The deal also includes working to optimize WebLogic performance on Intel's lower end server chip family IA-32. So far, Compaq Computer Corp. (NYSE:CPQ - news), Dell Computer Corp.(NasdaqNM:DELL - news), Hewlett-Packard Co. (NYSE:HWP - news), NCR Corp.(NYSE:NCR - news), France's Groupe Bull BULP.PA and Unisys Corp. (NYSE:UIS - news) have signed on to support the WebLogic optimized for the Intel chips, the companies said. Email this story - Most-emailed articles - Most-viewed