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Strategies & Market Trends : Gorilla and King Portfolio Candidates -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Thomas Mercer-Hursh who wrote (44829)7/23/2001 2:58:55 PM
From: techreports  Respond to of 54805
 
Back about 1970 one of my fellow grad students took off to study a tribe in the highlands of New Guinea. The group had been selected in part because they were so isolated; their only contact with the outside being a government census taker that would come through occasionally. This fellow packed his way in, fording the mountain steams, etc., etc. and as he came to the last rise leading into the village the chief came forward and offered him a cold Coke. You can imagine the fellow's reaction! It turned out that somewhere along the line they had traded with a neighboring group (who had traded with a neighboring group, etc.) for a couple of cases of Coke and a propane refrigerator. Whenever there was an important visitor they would fire up the fridge and cool off a couple of bottles.

Ok, i just wasn't sure if this was just some myth or people in far-out remote places actually knew what Coke was.

you will notice i said 5 billion to unseat coke, not a tech co. it takes a lot less to attack a tech gorilla. just ask juniper. one of the better VC investments had to be Cerent. i think the VC put up 25 million or so and got a return of like 2.3 billion in crisco stock. hopefully they sold it high.

oh ok, i thought you said 5 billion to unseat a tech gorilla. I agree, it is very disconcerting that Juniper was able to beat a gorilla at their own game and it probably only cost a few million dollars.

I question Cisco's gorilla power. To unseat Intel wouldn't be cheap, however, Intel [at least right now] is a king in my opinion. With the advent of IA-64 Intel is trying to change all of that. Eventually Intel will move 64 bit processors into the consumer market. Not only does this provide Intel with that network effect, but Intel unlike Cisco has another advantage. It isn't cheap or easy to processor 20 or 50 million processors a year.

Yes, but they might percieve that as being one and the same. The whole point of brand-name recognition is that people think the brand name implies that it's a superior product. In the case of cell phones, style is also important among the younger set. To those folks, it is almost impossible to select a competing product that doesn't have the hip look and the brand name, because to do otherwise would fly in the face of immense peer pressure.

Ya, Mike that was another subject i wanted to touch on. Sony, IMO, at least in the lower part of the United States (texas) has that type of brand power. Everyone in texas (can't say for the rest of the world) feels Sony has the best products (tvs, dvds, & now laptops)

I just don't feel Nokia has that same type of brand where people automatically assume Nokia is the best. That could change, but right now, when i look around alot of people have a cell phone that was offered to them by their carrier. Some have no-name brands like Audiovox.

Apple may be one of the most recognized brands, but that doesn't help them sell more computers, because most consumers know that Windows offers much more in terms of functionality.

BEAS impresses me more than many more vaunted competitors to MSFT--e.g. RNWK, NSCP. Solid management, business model and technology. They could do very, very well. I would not be shocked to see them as public enemy #1 in Redmond within the decade.

RealNetworks by the way, still controls roughly 85% of the market. By 2004, over 1 billion cell phones will conect to the internet. Sony Playstation has a deal to use RealPlayer in the PS2 and Sony sold over 100 million Playstation1s. They have also partnered up with some of the biggest names in the Technology sector, such as Adobe, Nokia, IBM, Sun Microsystems and Cisco. Cisco i think has a deal to include RNWK codecs inside Cisco routers.

durig.com

Will RNWK fall to Microsoft like NSCP? I can't say..