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To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (39353)7/24/2001 5:12:56 PM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 65232
 
Layoffs accelerating again............

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To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (39353)7/24/2001 6:14:43 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 65232
 
A Bitter Earnings Brew

SmartMoney.com

Tuesday July 24 04:50 PM EDT

<<WHEN WAS THE last time earnings season was any fun for investors? Certainly not a year ago, when expectations and many companies' stock prices were so high that anything short of the so-called whisper numbers — even earnings that beat analysts' published estimates — caused stocks to nose-dive.

That was the beginning of a year-long malaise that shows no signs of easing. I had thought that maybe this quarter would be different. With many stock prices so battered, and months of preannouncement warnings already factored in, I figured the companies that met or beat expectations would be positive surprises and their stocks might rally. But midway into the current earnings season, many investors still seem obsessed with the bad news, and skeptical that anything good is likely to persist.

Last week brought slightly better-than-expected earnings from some of the market's biggest names: Intel (NASDAQ: INTC - news), Microsoft (NASDAQ: MSFT - news), Sun Microsystems (NASDAQ: SUNW - news), AOL Time Warner (NYSE: AOL - news). But their stocks all dropped on the news when company executives were reluctant to forecast results for the next few quarters. This week delivered more of the same. AT&T (NYSE: T - news), Amazon.com (NASDAQ: AMZN - news) and Altera (NASDAQ: ALTR - news) all beat consensus estimates but were treated harshly for their bleak outlooks.

Despite diminished expectations across the board, companies that fell short in one way or another, such as earlier market darlings Comverse Technology (NASDAQ: CMVT - news) and Veritas Software (NASDAQ: VRTS - news), were severely punished. Even more surprising to me were some companies with what seemed to be stellar earnings: General Electric (NYSE: GE - news), Tyco International (NYSE: TYC - news) and Citigroup (NYSE: C - news), all previously recommended in this column. Their stocks barely budged.

In fact, this earnings season hasn't been all that bad. Of 256 companies in the S&P 500 that had reported earnings by this week, 155 had better-than-expected results and only 31 missed estimates, albeit reduced ones.

In other words, this is a market in a very bad mood.

Most earnings, of course, have been down sharply from a year ago, and even though we've been told to expect bad earnings, the reality can be depressing. Every day brings bleak headlines in the financial press, and the steady drumbeat creates a cumulative sense of despair. Countervailing positive signs in the economy have been scant.

To put this in perspective, bear in mind that earnings are a snapshot of what's past, which in this case was a second quarter when some sectors remained in free-fall and others were already flat on their backs. And the Federal Reserve (news - web sites)'s interest rate cuts, which began in January, would be expected to begin having an effect six months later, in June at the earliest, which marked the very end of the quarter. So even if the economy has begun to respond positively to the Fed's medicine, it wouldn't yet show up in any of the recent earnings.

The fact that company executives are having trouble predicting the next few quarters shouldn't come as any great surprise, either. Their customers should be only beginning to feel the Fed cuts, too. And bear in mind that many of them have been made to look like fools over the past year, Cisco Systems' (NASDAQ: CSCO - news) John Chambers and Sun's Scott McNeely being two prominent examples. Can you blame them for not wanting to go out on a limb again? And surely one lesson from their recent experiences is that if you're going to say anything, stress the negative. No one complains much about pleasant surprises. Microsoft has used that strategy for years, causing such comments to be widely discounted. But when it played the don't-expect-too-much card last week, the market took it as gospel.

Although the economy has avoided it so far, it's clear that many investors still fear a recession. This may be why industrial and financial companies, which are especially vulnerable to economic slowdowns, haven't been rewarded for their recent good earnings. A recent column in The Wall Street Journal was especially bleak, warning that of the three prongs of the economy — consumer spending, capital spending and foreign demand — two were in decline and likely to fall further. Only consumer spending had held up, and the odds were that it, too, would drop. Maybe so, but I felt the column discounted the impact of the Fed cuts. If anything, lower interest rates should cause consumer spending and confidence to grow, and capital spending to pick up. Eventually foreign demand should follow. But the fact is that no one really knows. We can only place an intelligent bet.

Despite the rampant pessimism, the Nasdaq has held just above my buying threshold of 1950. If it dips below, I will be buying stocks, especially of companies that have had strong recent earnings in such a difficult environment. But I'm not a blind optimist. We should soon be seeing some evidence that the Fed cuts are having an effect. If we haven't seen some real signs of an economic revival by Christmas, then something profound has undermined the Fed's ability to stimulate the economy, and I'll have to revise my thinking. But that's still a long way off.>>



To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (39353)7/24/2001 6:35:58 PM
From: RR  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 65232
 
Hi Jim: Re Naz, answers are:

1.) Support at bottom trend line from mid-April.

2.) April gap. I've mentioned this numerous times in past weeks. Naz been chipping away at that gap but shown resilience in doing so. Been anxious to see it fill some more. When it got down towards 1940, I figured a bounce off that area because of the gap filling.

Remember, this is only for a swing trade, not a "QQQ run" per se, as you questioned. Consequently, I am looking for merely a bounce. I'm not looking longer term.

Hope things are going ok for you, Jim.

RR



To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (39353)7/25/2001 5:06:20 AM
From: limtex  Respond to of 65232
 
JW - Anyone seen a real pick up in business. I suspect not. what we have seen are ominous wanrongs about Q3 and possibly Q4. The market is imho reacting to the after earnings period in a week or so when we might get the first Q3 warnings and they are going to be miserable.

Best regards,

L



To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (39353)7/25/2001 7:48:40 AM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 65232
 
jw: Some folks think technology is in a multi-year depression...
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Technology may be in a multiyear depression

By Bambi Francisco, CBS.MarketWatch.com
Dispatch from the sober summit
Last Update: 2:15 PM ET July 24, 2001

CARLSBAD, Calif. (CBS.MW) -- Investors may want to temper their excitement about the recovery they're expecting next year.

In a half-filled room at an Internet conference Tuesday in Carlsbad, Calif., gloom and pain resonated in the audience as a fund manager with a stellar track record forecast a further fallout in tech.

"Dan Benton's comments that things will get much worse mean half the people in this room are still too optimistic," said Kristen Koh, a software and Internet analyst for a Goldman Sachs technology fund.

Benton is chairman and chief executive of Andor Capital Management, which boasts $7.5 billion under management. The fund, which has posted 52 percent annual returns for the past seven years, is up 20 percent this year. Benton gave a morning presentation about his perspective on technology stocks at the Internet Summit. See related story on the conference.

Benton went through a number of slides that pointed out such sobering realities as semiconductor and semiconductor equipment spending falling 25 and 30 percent this year, respectively. He countered the notion that there will be a turnaround in the market following a round of Federal Reserve easings. His contention is that the tech industry has matured and that technology is now in a multiyear depression.

Benton also suggested that outlooks calling for a 2002 recovery are overly rosy.

Agreeing with Benton on his assessment, Koh added: "My job would be easier if I could find technology investments to make on the long side."

Looking for a rebound

Anyone who's currently optimistic about the Internet and broader tech health may be in for a rough ride if Benton's forecasts are correct.

In a survey of attendees during the first day of the conference, 48 percent said the worst is over but the speed of the upturn, when it does come, remains unclear. A large proportion of attendees appeared to agree with Benton. Forty-two percent said things will likely get worse before they get better.

Usage vs. user growth

Amid the grim outlook for technology spending and the maturation of the Internet, one encouraging sign is that people are becoming increasingly dependent on the Internet.

"The Internet is growing faster than anyone realizes right now," said Stratton Sclavos, president and chief executive of e-security firm VeriSign (VRSN: news, chart, profile) , who presented at the Carlsbad summit. "In January, 2.4 billion domain names were being looked up every day vs. 4 billion today."

Usage is going up, and it's coming from old-economy companies, he said.

In other words, the number of times a URL was typed in nearly doubled in six months. In addition to providing domain names, VeriSign runs servers that route Internet traffic to the correct server based on the URL typed. The more people using the Net, the more VeriSign's servers are hit.

Corporate debt mess

Ravi Suria, known for raising the red "debt" flag beneath Amazon.com's (AMZN: news, chart, profile) high-flying market valuation last year, is waving a king-sized bedsheet when he speaks of the debt that is plaguing the telecom sector.

Suria, who left Lehman Bros. as a credit analyst to become a fund manager at Duquesne Capital Management, cautioned that the telecom debt is the most "egregious example of what is affecting the economy."

Thirty-five percent of the revenue generated is being used to pay for interest payments on the debt, he said. Suria has been calling for weakness in the credit profile of telecom companies for some time. He reiterated his outlook from last year: "The writedowns from debt losses could potentially make the reported earnings of these companies much more volatile, as the default cycle remains at a high level over the next three years."

In the same report, Suria warned investors that the Fed easing would not solve the problem. "The spread-widening problem is not something that can be solved by a series of interest-rate cuts by the Fed, principally because it is a corporate balance-sheet issue and not a market liquidity issue," he said.

Suria spoke to an audience already well prepared for less than uplifting news. Prior to his presentation, Morgan Stanley analyst Mary Meeker, one of the conference hosts, outlined the stinging reality of the capital markets.

In introducing John Doerr, general partner at Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, Wired contributing editor John Heilemann quipped that Doerr was the creator of pithy aphorisms that have gone wrong. Heilemann was referring to Doerr's oft-quoted statement since 1998: "Believe it or not, the Internet is actually under-hyped. ... We are co-conspirators in the largest, legal creation of new wealth, primarily in Internet companies." See "The Death of Arrogance."

No one disagrees that the Internet has been a great wealth creator. According to a Morgan Stanley report that looked at 362 Net pure-plays, while those stocks were worth $1.1 trillion at one time, that group is now worth $415 billion.

Suria would add, however, the Internet also "created the biggest debt mess in history."