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To: brushwud who wrote (140235)7/26/2001 6:32:50 PM
From: fingolfen  Respond to of 186894
 
Yes, for the past 15 months.

Welcome to the minority... :-) Do you run Linux exclusively? If not, what percent of your programs do you run in Linux?

Oh yeah, Itanium software is what's up all over the place.

Given the level of hardware major commits to it (Dell, HP, Big Q) I honestly hope you meant that seriously rather than a poor attempt at sarcasm...



To: brushwud who wrote (140235)7/26/2001 8:58:17 PM
From: Paul Engel  Respond to of 186894
 
BrushDud - Re: "Itanium software is what's up all over the place. "

Yep - Where it COUNTS !!

Monday July 23, 6:00 am Eastern Time
Press Release

SOURCE: BEA Systems, Inc.

BEA and Intel Announce Alliance to Expand Adoption of BEA WebLogic For Enterprise Computing on Intel Itanium(TM) Architecture

Relationship to Significantly Extend the Reach of Applications Built on BEA and Intel-Based Servers for the Enterprise


SAN JOSE, Calif., and SANTA CLARA, Calif., July 23 /PRNewswire/ -- Intel Corporation and BEA Systems, Inc. (Nasdaq: BEAS - news), one of the world's leading e-business infrastructure software companies, today announced that the two companies will work together to jointly optimize BEA WebLogic® software for the Itanium(TM) Processor Family and IA-32 platforms. The global e- business alliance addresses customer demand for an increase in choice of platforms available for enterprise deployment by providing a high-performing and scalable Java 2 Enterprise Edition (J2EE) e-business software platform running on a choice of operating systems, including Microsoft Windows and Linux. The companies will collaborate on joint engineering to optimize BEA products running on Intel Architecture and will pursue targeted marketing and sales activities with hardware manufacturers, independent software vendors (ISVs) and integrators. The alliance is designed to extend the capabilities of Intel- based servers used in the enterprise for running mission-critical e-business applications and Web Services.

``The collaboration between Intel and BEA will bring the BEA WebLogic E- Business Platform to market on the highest performing and most cost-effective computing platforms available,'' said Paul Otellini, executive vice president and general manager, Intel Architecture Group. ``The alliance addresses the demands in today's business environment for the broadest range of platform choices with no sacrifice in functionality and ability to rapidly deploy systems across an organization.''

``With this relationship with Intel, our goal is to extend customer demand for BEA WebLogic on Intel-based platforms for development and deployment,'' said Bill Coleman, founder, chairman, and chief executive officer of BEA Systems. ``Together with Intel, we aim to significantly accelerate the proliferation of BEA WebLogic on Intel servers, as well as applications built on BEA. The alliance is designed to give customers greater freedom of choice in production environments and our ISVs increased distribution and faster performance of their applications running on Intel-based hardware.''

The e-business alliance comprises a number of programs slated for this year, including certification and optimization of the BEA WebLogic E-Business Platform for Intel-based servers, and the establishment of a technology lab to validate and document performance and scalability of the companies' joint products. Intel and BEA will also jointly train and provide support materials to their direct sales and channel sales organizations, and cooperate to develop service offerings.

A number of leading hardware OEMs worldwide have already pledged support for BEA WebLogic optimized for IA, including some existing BEA hardware OEM partners such as BULL, Compaq Computer Corporation, Dell Computer Corporation, Hewlett-Packard Company, NCR Corporation, and Unisys. The two companies expect to work with numerous additional hardware OEMs, as well as software vendors and integrators.

``The flexibility to deploy Internet applications on any platform is critical to global enterprise customers,'' said Vignette chairman, president and CEO Greg Peters. ``As an ally to both BEA and Intel, we are very pleased to see the two companies commit to initiatives that are designed to ensure optimal performance on current and future generations of Intel architecture platforms.''

Availability

Today's announcement includes the Itanium processor family and future IA-32 products; it bolsters the optimization and marketing efforts for BEA WebLogic already available on the Intel Xeon(TM) processor family. The goal of this e-business alliance is to align the two companies' respective product roadmaps so that BEA WebLogic will be available, optimized and tuned for future Intel processors as they are introduced.

About BEA

BEA Systems, Inc. is one of the world's leading e-business infrastructure software companies, with more than 10,000 customers around the world including the majority of the Fortune Global 500. BEA and its WebLogic® brand are among the most trusted names in e-business. Businesses built on the award-winning BEA WebLogic E-Business Platform(TM) are reliable, highly scalable, and poised to bring new services to market quickly. BEA's e-business platform is the de facto standard for more than 2,000 systems integrators, independent software vendors (ISVs) and application service providers (ASPs) to provide complete solutions that fast-track and future-proof e-businesses for high growth and profitability. Headquartered in San Jose, Calif., BEA has 92 offices in 32 countries and is on the Web at www.bea.com.

About Intel

Intel, the world's largest chip maker, is also a leading manufacturer of computer, networking and communications products. Additional information about Intel is available at www.intel.com/pressroom.

Forward-Looking Statement

Some of the statements in this press release are forward-looking, including the statements regarding the completion, implementation, benefits, and details of the alliance between BEA and Intel; the optimization of BEA WebLogic software for Intel's products; collaboration on joint engineering, training and support; pursuing targeted marketing and sales activities; extending the reach of Intel-based servers; bringing to market BEA's products on the highest performing and cost-effective platforms; extending customer demand for BEA WebLogic; accelerating or increasing the proliferation of BEA WebLogic; benefits to customers and ISVs; various programs slated for this year; and expected work with numerous additional hardware OEM and other parties. Actual results could differ materially from those expressed in any forward-looking statements. Risks and uncertainties that could cause results to differ materially include risks associated with: any unforeseen technical difficulties related to the ongoing development and optimization of BEA WebLogic for Intel products; the timing of additional investments by Intel in resources for supporting BEA WebLogic; changes in the marketplace for enterprise-wide software solutions and related hardware solutions, including the introduction of products competitive with BEA's and Intel's products, and any software errors or other technical problems related to BEA's or Intel's products. Readers should also refer to the risk disclosures set forth in BEA's 10-Q for the quarter ended April 30, 2001, as filed with the SEC and subsequent reports filed thereafter from time-to-time with the SEC. The forward-looking statements contained in this release are made as of the date hereof, and BEA does not assume any obligation to update such statements nor the reasons why actual results could differ materially from those projected in such statements.

NOTE: BEA, Tuxedo, WebLogic, BEA WebLogic Server, BEA WebLogic Commerce Server, BEA WebLogic Personalization Server, BEA Portal Framework, BEA WebLogic Portal, BEA WebLogic Integration, BEA WebLogic M-Commerce Solution, and BEA WebLogic E-Business Platform are trademarks or registered trademarks of BEA Systems, Inc. All other company and product names may be trademarks of the company with which they are associated.

Intel, Intel Architecture, Intel Itanium Processor Family and Intel Xeon Processor are trademarks or registered trademarks of Intel Corporation or its subsidiaries in the United States and other countries.

Other names and brands may be claimed as the property of others.
SOURCE: BEA Systems, Inc.

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To: brushwud who wrote (140235)7/26/2001 8:59:19 PM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
BrushDud - Re: "Itanium software is what's up all over the place. "

Yep - Where it COUNTS AGAIN !!

iwsun4.infoworld.com

IBM to optimize WebSphere for Intel Itanium chip

By Dan Neel
July 24, 2001 2:59 pm PT


IBM WILL SOON announce that it has optimized its flagship application server software to run on Intel's Itanium processor, a source familiar with Big Blue's plans said Tuesday.

IBM's Java-based WebSphere application server software platform will add Intel's 64-bit Itanium chip family to its list of suitable compute platforms, the source said.

BEA on Monday announced similar plans to optimize its WebLogic software to Itanium.

Later this year, Hewlett-Packard, which co-developed Itanium along with Intel, will release HP Bluestone Total-e-Server products also optimized to Itanium, an HP source said.

The decisions by BEA, IBM, and HP to tune their separate Java-based application server technologies to Intel's Itanium processor collectively threaten Sun Microsystems and its Sparc computing architecture. The option to run IBM's WebSphere or HP's Bluestone on Itanium will give IBM and HP the advantage of lower cost compared to Sun's iPlanet application server technology, which runs on Sun's UltraSparc chips. BEA's decision to support Itanium could hurt Sun even worse, as Sun customers running BEA's WebLogic on UltraSparc will now be able to scale their networks out on less expensive Intel-based computers, according to Evan Quinn, an industry analyst at The Hurwitz Group, based in Framingham, Mass.

Sun officials believe the moves by BEA, IBM, and HP leave the application server market "unchanged," a Sun spokesperson said. Defiantly, Sun believes its UltraSparc platform is significantly more mature and reliable than Intel's fledgling Itanium chip, which hit the market earlier this year.

Quinn believes that Sun's maturity in the application server space will make it a tough competitor to topple.

"No question about it, Sun has become competitively rather strong [in the application server market]," Quinn said. "So if you're in HP's shoes, you view Itanium as a nice opportunity to try and get HP-UX -- HP's operating system -- and the rest of the solution stack HP now owns to post itself up against Sun and their entire stack. And IBM is in a similar situation, that they've got their own hardware and their own operating system and their own services to sell against Sun."

"Then you've got BEA, arguably the market leader [in application server software], and what do they not have? They don't have the full solution stack inside of their own four walls, so they've had to partner with Sun to run on UltraSparc, but they don't want to be too beholden to Sun because Sun has got iPlanet, and that's going to be Sun's first choice for Sun customers," Quinn said.

"Sun has done a good job," Quinn said. "It is not going to be easy for someone to walk in and dislodge them; they've had the market momentum. From a chip perspective, Itanium gives Intel a way fight back against UltraSparc. In the operating system space, it gives HP's early allegiance to Itanium a way to fight back against [Sun's operating system] Solaris, and in the case of BEA it gives them a platform to try to stand out on. There is no standout [application server] right now on Itanium."

BEA's WebLogic software will be optimized to both Intel's 64-bit Itanium processors and future 32-bit chips like Intel's Xeon processors, said Deborah Conrad, the vice president and general manager of Intel's solutions market development group.

"For BEA customers that are on Sun, I think this is certainly the beginning of a very long term migration towards more of an Intel, or commodity, market for application servers," said Nick Gall, the vice president and director of Meta Group, an industry think tank based in Stamford, Conn.

Representatives from both BEA and Intel said they believe the alliance will significantly expand the market share for WebLogic deployments on Intel architecture.

The announcement represents another significant endorsement of Itanium, which is the first in a long road map of 64-bit processors expected from Intel. Last June, Compaq embraced Itanium with news that the computer maker would begin the slow transition to an exclusively Intel-based product line.

However, with Itanium viewed by most experts as merely proof-of-concept for Intel's 64-bit architecture, users will likely wait for a second-generation Itanium chip called McKinley before deploying any mission-critical applications atop an Itanium chip.

"Everybody we've talked to so far, people that would be buying into the Itanium family, have indicated that the real product starts in the McKinley time frame," Gall said.

Until then, Gall said most companies will use Itanium-powered servers to migrate applications and prepare for the arrival of McKinley. McKinley is expected in early 2002, according to Intel.

WebLogic is already optimized for 32-bit Intel Xeon processors, Intel's marquee 32-bit server chip. Future 32-bit Intel chips will be optimized to run BEA's software as well, according to Intel officials.

Dan Neel is an InfoWorld senior writer.