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To: pgerassi who wrote (49132)	7/26/2001 10:01:17 PM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Re: "You do not know the pricing of servers. How many have you specified in your life! Do you know even how to make one? Do you know how much engineering goes into building one with more than a standard number of CPUs? Have you ever created a turn key server? Do you know how much it takes in both application and support software? Can you fix one when it breaks?" Tony knows a HECKUVA lot about servers. His company designs them, builds them, and sells them. Yet you babble on with fantasy-instead-of-facts on The Intel thread making a complete fool of yourself - compounding error upon error with your made-up-opinions-instead-of-facts.

To: pgerassi who wrote (49132)	7/27/2001 1:57:03 AM
From: Tony Viola	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

How many have you specified in your life! Probably about 4 different generations, some mainframe and some Intel based. Do you know how much engineering goes into building one with more than a standard number of CPUs? Yes. I've worked in quite a few aspects of server development: architecture, logic, packaging, power, cooling, EMI, design verification, etc., also with constant attention on cost of all components involved, for UP (single processor) up to 16 ways. Show me any Intel based server of today and I can cost it out from CPUs to screws and everything else in between. Have you ever created a turn key server? No, but what's that have to do with knowing about the CPU cost content vs, memory, I/O, power supplies, sheet metal, etc. Can you fix one when it breaks? Haven't done that lately, but what's that have to do with knowing about the CPU cost content vs, memory, I/O, power supplies, sheet metal, etc. So, I guess 30 years in computers isn't enough. If you think servers are .2 to 2% CPU by cost, like you've been preaching on the Intel thread, you must be working on another planet.