To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (140289 ) 7/27/2001 3:44:52 PM From: pgerassi Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894 Dear Tench: Yeah some nitwit is going to buy a server and stick nothing but CPUs in it. And they are not going to print anything. Not going to connect it with anything. Isn't that even more a fantasy! A small business that has a server is going to have branches that come in with private lines back into a box and that connects to either a terminal server or a multiport serial card in the server. It is going to have two or three line printers (most business forms are multicopy if you did not know and lasers and ink jets do not print those) for all of those bills, checks, orders, invoices, etc. It will have some label printers and a few lasers spread around. It will have a hefty amount of disk with tape backup. It will have a console and a UPS. It will have a few ethernet hubs or switchers. A VAR would sell all of the big ticket items on one bill, detailed of course, and call it hardware. A system integrator would also call it hardware to computerize the business. Once you get that number and then compare it to the CPU cost in the server even quad Xeons are less than 2%. Compaq includes those things, so does IBM, HP, NEC, and a host of others. Just because Intel does not make line printers or tape drives does not remove them from the server revenue. Or do you narrow the definition to suit your argument? To just those things that drive up the CPU portion? Oh, the customer does not need disk, the ability to print (where does all that personalized junk mail and bills get printed, by magic?), or the ability to back it up and remove it to a safer location (a building doesn't get trashed by a tornado or hurricane, ever). Where have you been? Pete