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Strategies & Market Trends : Steve's Channelling Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (21851)7/27/2001 3:21:10 PM
From: westpacific  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 30051
 
Semis trading at 40/50/60x's earnings for next 2 to 3 years out.

DO you really think we have seen the bottom! NOT EVEN CLOSE.

Average PE of S&P now 31.50.

Companies slashing dividends.

See you well below 9400 and 1600 sometime next year.

West



To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (21851)7/27/2001 3:23:33 PM
From: Zeev Hed  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 30051
 
The only problem with that assumption is that once a euphoric mood sets in, valuations measures are thrown out of the window. Liquidity will drive the market, no to crazy valuations as early last year, but "crazy enough". The Naz may turn to a "roaring bull" once the 2500 area is taken, that bull move could ad 50% from that point (not until next year), that would get us a move to just under 3800. My "model" for the top of next year bull (3800/4200) allows simply for another 10% overshoot, and believe me, if and when we will be there, talk about next year's earning being valued at a PE of 40, will not be uncommon, since after all, they will expect the like of JDSU, INTC and MSFT to resume 40% growth. Rude awakening later in 2002/03.

In the meanwhile, here and now, the Dow is retesting for the fourth time the 10400 level, will it hold above it? That is the mystery.

Zeev

In edit, Dow cracked 10400 again after the fourth "try". Barely...



To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (21851)7/27/2001 3:24:19 PM
From: Jeff Guy  Respond to of 30051
 
Someone on another thread made a good point a couple days ago. Mentioned that at the end of a bear market valuations are either to low or to high. If the multiples are high because of rapid earnings contraction that the p/e's can compress just as rapidly on the way out of the trough as 4th quarter comparisons get easier to beat.