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To: puborectalis who wrote (165207)	7/27/2001 3:58:47 PM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 769669

And you are sure they were wrong? That they were poorly planned and executed, and sometimes surrounded by hysteria and hypocrisy, no one doubts, but that is different from the thing intended and attempted. If, say, the barbarians had overrun the East Coast of the United States, and the remaining defenders asked for aid to preserve the White House and Capital, the Washington Monument and Lincoln Memorial, in other words, our sacred places, wouldn't many go? At that time, warfare was not mechanized, and was less bloody, the trade off being that the wounded, lacking proper medical attention, usually died or lost a limb. Most fatalities were the result of disease, not combat.......

To: puborectalis who wrote (165207)	7/27/2001 4:36:59 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769669

By the way, one reason the Crusades kept going was to help defend the Byzantine Empire against the encroaching Turks. This was to help an ally, and to keep trade routes to the East open. Personal motives for fighting included the hope of gaining land, when one was the younger son of a nobleman, or love of adventure, or the need to get booty for a fresh financial start. The idea that the Crusades were fought only for religious reasons is silly.......

To: puborectalis who wrote (165207)	7/27/2001 4:44:54 PM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 769669

For a long time, all education, charitable work, hospitalization, and even scholarship occurred under the auspices of the Church. Irish monks kept learning alive in the British Isles: the great universities were mainly established by religious orders; sisters taught reading, writing, and 'rithmetic to the urban poor. Orphans were taken in by monks and nuns; almshouses were administered by parishes and diocese before the state acknowledged responsibility; soup kitchens and flophouses are maintained to this day by inner city churches. Sisters nursed the sick, and great hospitals arose through the agency of various denominations. Add in the reformed lives, the twelve- steppers (remember the Higher Power), the boost to morale felt by a substantial portion of the population, the sense of hallowedness afforded the crises of human existence (such as birth, death, and marriage), dignifying our lives, and religion has been very useful.