To: pat mudge who wrote (20965 ) 8/7/2001 11:24:40 AM From: Hank Stamper Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 24042 Ma'am, You wrote:Anyone who uses "cuz" and "to whom" in the same sentence is as phoney as a 3-dollar bill. Who are you and why are you pretending to be an ignoramus who couldn't make it past the sixth grade? You accused me of calling you names. Prove it by posting links to the posts you claim I made. Otherwise, if you're the poseur I think you are, I hope a real logger, whose profession you denigrate, takes that running chain-saw and gives your cowardly ass the lesson it deserves. Metaphorically speaking, of course. Ma’am, At the mill set (we’re not logging presently, too dry in the bush), I showed your note around. It made for a good laugh. One the boys said you’re right about me using regular words and fancy ones in the same sentences. They laughed again, at me. Another guy said it was funny that you’d be asking me to show the places where you called me names so’s something could be proved up. But, he said in your asking for the proof you called me names: "phoney" and "poseur"! He said that was real strange and didn’t it just prove my original point? We all pondered on that one a while. There was two of the boys who didn’t know what "poseur" means. When that got explained, one of the fellows broke into an old Wobbly song. It goes like this: "I know you are a logger And not a common bum, Because no one but a logger Stirs his coffee with his thumb." He knows a lot of them kind of songs—learned from his granddad that was on the front lines with Joe Hill when the woods were first organized in these parts. As for you hoping someone would be taking a chain saw to my a**, that got grins too and one of the boys said the person that wanted to do that ought to have the rakers filed low, be packing a big peevy, and wearing their caluks. (Now, if you have to figure out what those words are and how to correctly say "caulks," then you don’t know gyppo logging and sawmilling.) But the fellows were a little sour at your use of that cuss word (the "a" word) to me. Don’t get them wrong—we all cuss and spit but most loggers I know don’t like to in front of women. They’re old fashioned and also don’t really prefer that kind of word used by a female either. It’s okay, I explained though. You’re most likely from a city and it’s just different there. What I didn’t explain was that I think you got it wrong anyway. I’d have to check with my daughter—-logging and sawmilling helped put her through university for a degree in English (she helps me with some of the fancy words too; she doesn’t cuss, either and that makes me proud as a father)-—but I reckon that your use of "metaphorically speaking" is not right on two counts. One, we’re not speaking, we’re writing. Two it isn’t metaphor, it’s analogy. I think these are properly called rhetorical devices. And, I like to see the right tool used for the right job. Hank Stamper