To: Zardoz who wrote (74150 ) 7/29/2001 8:16:14 AM From: d:oug Respond to of 116930 Hutch, As i have told you before, i like you and think you a good person. Those many times, if not near everytime that i referenced you either directly or indirectly, i have equated you with bad and evil using the stipulations i set forth up front very early on my posting onto this thread, that by the way are near identical to those i gave to Ron Reese. Safe Harbor: Identical in my mind. But thats not really here or there is a dumbo babble'ation of a saying because on this thread as Rarebird has expressed it many time many different ways and a lot of ways that would require another sharp mind with his education to follow, but its the same story-line written in all of the posts here except for longone Richard, and that is "lets make the money" or whatever it is that will clue us, except me since i no trade etc except for those few pee'ed-on pennies, and help to make money. Sure, gold bug or gata nut or gold standard or what is money and the kitchen sink also makes a showing on this thread, and sometimes it seems to be the only topic discussed. But bottom line for all you except me, is where do you put or place your investment cash. Period. This gata stuff and articles and words like manipulation are like filler here until more action takes hold, as in you guys need more data point variations or whatever math term you may wish to use to sound impressive. This long term constant few changing etc stuff is hard to invest into unless one uses your knowledge and contacts through you job, or like Rarebird using scientific principles of markets that include the what and how people think. Another Bottom Line. What you say is true, and what gata says is true will be showned hopefully in the next few months. If so then so be it whatever it is to be will be etc etc etc. You believe in yourself and trust your own judgement and as that saying goes, you put your money where your month is as it is your mind speaking. No need for you to prove me or gata wrong, as these Bottom Lines are a simple addition and substraction for profit or lost. Stuff like "YOUR definition of manipulation is faulty." is well knowned on this thread by all to be a waste of time and thinking in that we are just doing the same stuff over and over again without any change possible. I dig a hole and show you the truTh i dug up, and you dig another hole and dump the dirt you dig into that hole i dug covering the truTh i exposed so that you can expose the truTh that you now uncovered in the hole you dug. Yes, that was like looking into the mirror in front of you when another mirror was directly behind you and you caught that image of you looking into the mirror looking into the mirror looking........ enough, lets hope gata bill's eXcitmint is 4Real this time. Does good hands bill carry the ball and score, or ? Now Doug, answer me this one question: Are you a pawn working for GATA? Sure Hutch i will answer with a "no" in that Bill Murphy has no idea who or what or whatever i am. I could be a man, woman or AI program. As for a pawn i can simply say that my only reason for this gata nut stuff i do was initiated by a desire to see a few of my in the toilet penny gold/precious mine companies get the ability to standup out of the pee puddy they are in by an increase in the price of gold. As for the "depth" of involvement, its all Ayn Rand. To me gold bug has near zero to do with making money either by trading it as physical, or shares in a mining company or its place in object collected for art or whatever, it just the only thing i know of that has the best chance to keep the fiat money creation process regulated so that too much paper is not printed. That all. Me no care to own or buy gold, and it price to me is not an issue just so it can function as a store of value and demostrate a nation's resolve to keep its currency valid. Not sure if i answered your question about gata, so once again, i am not in the gata inner circle, i have never met or talked to any of those persons associated with gata or the le metropole cafe except for a few days ago when the web site man sent me an e-mail saying Subj: Theft of Services Date: 7/27/01 From: webmaster@lemetropolecafe.com (Webmaster) .. do not attempt to abuse the Cafe anymore. You have been stealing services, information, etc. from the Cafe since... used subterfuge to... Clarify U.S. Policy on Gold and Gold Accounting Target: Paul O'Neill Secretary of the Treasury I ask you to please clarify the public confusion over the Government’s handling of its gold reserves. There are allegations the U.S. government is involved in manipulating the price of gold. Reclassifications of gold reserves has added to the confusion. ..... See full petition below SIGNATURES SO FAR: 661 GOAL: 10,000 DEADLINE: Ongoing ... dougak