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To: ColtonGang who wrote (165733)	7/29/2001 7:48:25 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

The Iranians and Reagan? Instead of an incompetent who first said "I will never use military force" and then did and blew it, the Iranians now understood The Sheriff had ridden into town and they had best let loose of those hostages.

To: ColtonGang who wrote (165733)	7/29/2001 7:52:07 PM
From: puborectalis	Respond to of 769670

New floggings in Iran Youth have got used to more freedoms under Khatami By Iranian affairs analyst Sadeq Saba A hardline court in Iran has ordered another group of young men to be flogged in public despite opposition from the reformist government of President Mohammad Khatami. Five men were whipped in the western town of Boroujerd on Sunday on charges of public disorder and breaking shop windows. In the past few weeks around 100 young men have been flogged in several incidents in Iranian towns. The Iranian interior minister and pro-reform political organisations have condemned these severe punishments. Public spectacle The five young men were whipped in a busy square in Boroujerd. They each received more than 70 lashes for public disorder offences. President Khatami does not control the judiciary The head of the judiciary in the town said unemployment was the main cause of such behaviour. He justified the use of public flogging against young offenders by saying it would make an example of them for others. Dozens of young men have also been whipped in public in the capital, Tehran, mainly for drinking alcohol and chasing women. This kind of punishment has rarely been carried out in Iran in recent years. Youth concern But its increasing use over the past weeks has created anxiety among the Iranian youth who have been enjoying more social freedoms since President Khatami came to power four years ago. Reformists fear that the hardline conservative judiciary is ordering such punishments in an attempt to undermine Mr Khatami's credibility. Mr Lari warned of "serious consequences" for Iran The Iranian pro-reform interior minister has recently said the whipping of people in public places had serious political and social consequences. Other reformists have said such punishments hurt the country's image. But hardliners blame Mr Khatami's tolerant policies for encouraging young people to defy religious rules. Reports from Iran say most people disapprove public floggings. Other severe punishments such as stoning of women for adultery and public hangings for various crimes have also been on the increase in recent months.

To: ColtonGang who wrote (165733)	7/29/2001 8:54:39 PM
From: CYBERKEN	Respond to of 769670

Actually, in a similar situation, President Elect Eisenhower, in early 1953 through a back channel, made absolutely no bones about his intention to use atomic bombs on North Korea if they insisted on continuing the war. He was sworn in, and the communists yielded very shortly. Kissinger stated in Volume I of his memoirs that they were too tentative on North Vietnam in 1969, because of a mistaken belief that the left wing Congress would actually have the guts to disassemble the free world's only military structure as revenge. The "Christmas bombing", three years later, broke Hanoi's dream of keeping the U.S. trapped in the war. When Reagan got in, he had the same image as Ike. The Russians were very openly scared shitless, even displaying it on the American media (something they NEVER did before). So yet another pissant third-world country saw the writing on the wall, and the hostages were released...