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To: tejek who wrote (138369)	7/30/2001 4:54:44 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 1584048

Tim, by your definition, not communism's. According to the plain English definitions of the words. "The state" does not equal "the employees", so "state ownership" does not equal "employee ownership". If Marx said differently then Marx was wrong as he was about many other things. Listen to you......suddenly your tune changes. I thought according to you the less we saw of gov't the better off we would all be? You do understand how "less government" or even "minimal government" (two things that I have argued for) does not equal "no government", or "elimination of the government", right? As I have said before I am not an anarchist. Anarchy doesn't work well in practice and protects our rights even worse then democractic republic, sometimes worse then a dictatorship. Also anarchy is not likely to last long. Someone with some power will eventually set himself up as ruler and then you have a dictatorship. Rather than eliminate private ownership, Marx actually intended to expand property rights to everyone. Every worker would own a piece of the action. Kinda like a condo. It was to be utopia. Got something against utopia? If I own X. And now the government or the "revolutionary cadres" or "the workers" all the sudden declare that X is now owned by "everyone", then they are infringing on my property rights, not expanding property rights. Also in practice being "owned by everyone" usually amounts to government ownership and control. Tim